London Marathon Woman dies

chriscubed said:
Sure, but is the average marathon-running person the same as the average person nationwide? I think not.

Stats arguments are fun!
Click to expand...

Which is what the original point ignored. Why would you assume an average demographic for a group of people you know are not average.

It's like saying on average 1 in 30,000 people earn over £1m per year and then taking a group of 30,000 three year olds and claiming that one of them will earn £1m per year.
 
Hopefully that clears up the "flaw" in the statistic at last.

On topic, my friend ran past the girl as she was receiving CPR. It's sad, as the death of anyone is, especially that age. But I do find it odd that it receives such attention and almost national mourning, when people die every day.
 
chriscubed said:
Sure, but is the average marathon-running person the same as the average person nationwide? I think not.

Stats arguments are fun!
Click to expand...

50% of veteran marathon runners have heart damage. The non-athlete subjects of the same age had no damage. A lot of the runners also have atherosclerosis. They are not as healthy as they look and drop dead after runs all the time. There was a famous American runner (Micah True) who died this month on a run.

Interesting read: http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/content/29/15/1800.full

Chronic heart inflammation + extremely high carb diet = unhealthy
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/HeartD...lague-long-distance-runners/story?id=10140233
 
Last edited:
chriscubed said:
Sure, but is the average marathon-running person the same as the average person nationwide? I think not.

Stats arguments are fun!
Click to expand...

A marathon runner is probably more likely to during a marathon tan an average person.

Marathon running is very bad for your body!
 
Burnsy2023 said:
How do you know they are waving their fee? Good news if they are.

Edit: ignore, found it on their blog. Good for them :)
Click to expand...

It won't even make a dent on what they normally make though, the 17k is well worth the publicity they are getting for waiving the fee.
 
Lance Armstrong a person that has a 7 time Tour de France winner, an aerobic capacity of 83.8 mL/kg/min (VO2 max), and had a resting heart rate of 32–34 beats per minute (bpm) with a maximum heart rate of 201 bpm said this after completing the 2006 New York City marathon
For the level of condition that I have now, that was without a doubt the hardest physical thing I have ever done. I never felt a point where I hit the wall. It was really a gradual progression of fatigue and soreness.
Click to expand...

Marathons are just dumb, there are far better endurance sports that are better for you.
 
Em3bbs said:
It won't even make a dent on what they normally make though, the 17k is well worth the publicity they are getting for waiving the fee.
Click to expand...

I don't know why people are making a fuss of their taking from the donations, they don't take 5% of the donation, they get it from the gift aid.

Here’s how we charge our 5% fee

You donate £10 and we send it to your charity that week.
We reclaim Gift Aid from the government (which takes a month), adding £2.50 to your donation.
We take our 5% fee from the Gift Aid, with credit/debit card/PayPal charges, and send all the rest to the charity. So for every £10 you give, the charity gets £11.74, and they get it faster.
Click to expand...

I think the government needs to stop doing this tbh!
 
Last edited:
desires said:
Lance Armstrong a person that has a 7 time Tour de France winner, an aerobic capacity of 83.8 mL/kg/min (VO2 max), and had a resting heart rate of 32–34 beats per minute (bpm) with a maximum heart rate of 201 bpm said this after completing the 2006 New York City marathon


Marathons are just dumb, there are far better endurance sports that are better for you.
Click to expand...
Then he went back the next year, knocked 13 mins off his time and said he enjoyed it; http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2007-11-05-705941886_x.htm
 
desires said:
I don't know why people are making a fuss of their taking from the donations, they don't take 5% of the donation, they get it from the gift aid.
Click to expand...

I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying it's entirely beneficial for them to waive this particular fee considering the publicity and the amount of people that will say 'aahhhh isn't that good of them' when it's a drop in the ocean. :)
 
They do take 5% desires. Do the maths. You could even say they take 7.5%

In the example you give them £10, they take 76p.

That's an absolutely massive cut. 5% transaction fee on something so simple is terrible. However I think we're better off with them than without. I just someone would come along and undercut them.
 
bam0 said:
Then he went back the next year, knocked 13 mins off his time and said he enjoyed it; http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2007-11-05-705941886_x.htm
Click to expand...

That wasn't the point i was making. I'm saying if someone of his calibre found his first marathon hard work, how are these people like Claire Squires supposed to understand the intensity of it? You should have to enter and complete a half marathon to be allowed entry into an event like this imo, just as you have to be able to swim 50m to do a lot of water activities.
 
Pssh a marathon is a warm down ;)

This kind of incident happens a lot, people just relate it to what she/he was doing at that instant and then add the two together and get 5.
 
Clipsey said:
Pssh a marathon is a warm down ;)

This kind of incident happens a lot, people just relate it to what she/he was doing at that instant and then add the two together and get 5.
Click to expand...

So you're saying she'd be dead now even if she didn't do the marathon?
 
desires said:
So you're saying she'd be dead now even if she didn't do the marathon?
Click to expand...

No, don't put words in his mouth.

It's obvious that he's saying people see an effect and settle for attributing it to the cause that they see right before their eyes instead of looking deeper. People don't die from running marathons, they die from something that is wrong with them already that taking part in prolonged intensive exercise such as a marathon brings to the surface.

It's the same as saying someone died "of old age". People don't just die of old age, something kills them off. Them being old is a contributory factor, but not the cause of their death.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom