Do extra terrestrials exist? If so...

There is no evidence. Planets, even in habitual zone with water
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as of yet but if there is then it is assumed that this would be the place to find it since temperatures are neither too hot nor too cold for liquid water to exist on any would be planet's surface.

I suppose the alleged abundancey of water in space is placed in to perspective by this:

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Link: http://www.fastcompany.com/1769468/...t-largest-body-of-water-in-existence-in-space

Around a black hole 12 billion light years away, there's an almost unimaginable vapor cloud of water--enough to supply an entire planet's worth of water for every person on earth, 20,000 times over.

Again your missing the point I'm not arguing about planets or what we have found, or what either of us think.

At it's most basic.
Number if planets x chance of life = number of planets that should have life on it.
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If we are looking for the chances of life then we should start simply by searching for the ingrediants and conditions that led to there being life here. There is no real need to extrapolate statistically the chances of anything since all we have to do is keep searching and developing the processes that will enable us to do it/find life. It will all become self-evident eventually. For the record I am not suggesting we are arguing about anything regarding this
planets or what we have found, or what either of us think.
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ethan said:
as of yet but if there is then it is assumed that this would be the place to find it since temperatures are neither too hot nor too cold for liquid water to exist on any would be planet's surface.

I suppose the alleged abundancey of water in space is placed in to perspective by this:

quasar-water.jpg
Link: http://www.fastcompany.com/1769468/...t-largest-body-of-water-in-existence-in-space

Around a black hole 12 billion light years away, there's an almost unimaginable vapor cloud of water--enough to supply an entire planet's worth of water for every person on earth, 20,000 times over.

If we are looking for the chances of life then we should start simply by searching for the ingrediants and conditions that led to there being life here. There is no real need to extrapolate statistically the chances of anything since all we have to do is keep searching and developing the processes that will enable us to do it/find life. It will all become self-evident eventually. For the record I am not suggesting we are arguing about anything regarding this
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Only 12 billion light years away... Time to charge the batteries on the Enterprise, Captain Kirk.
 
There is still a lot of human arrogance about this subject,but i tell you,i have very little money at the moment,but i would put all of what i have on the odds that there is life elsewhere in the universe,i know the ones who speak about intelligent life being so important to us,yes maybe,but just to find other forms of life no matter what state of evolution is a step in the right direction.

I would like to think when you die,we are all told the missing answers about the universe and what is it's purpose.i very much doubt it though:(:(
 
Glaucus said:
Number if planets x chance of life = number of planets that should have life on it.
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Unfortunately you have to take into account time scales as well, in particular when you think about the chances of us finding intelligent life.

For all we know dozens of intelligent civilisations could have risen, fallen and vanished millions of years before we reached the technological capabilities of even the most rudimentary contact.

The chances of the right type of life (i.e. recognisable to us) in the right place(let's say even in our galaxy) at the right time(now, give or take a few thousand years) are, well, slim in terms of us being able to find it.

I'm convinced there is/was/will be life out there, just not that it's likely to coincide with the very small set of parameters on the universal scale of size and time that would allow us to make any kind of contact.
 
This is going to sound weird but i actually dreamt of an alien invasion last night, maybe they are contacting me through dreams.........:)

When i start building mountains in my front room i will seek help :D
 
nasa wouldnt release photos or movies if they did ever capture a UFO, dont they have to authorise any releases with the pentagon anyway?
 
There is life out there, it could be odd looking or be exactly the same make up that we life forms are made from.

But being that the other life forms are billions of light years away, by the time we saw one they would have been dead billions of years ago.
 
Davepen said:
'Shrink like earth did'?

You do know the universe is expanding right?
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the faster you can travel the smaller the universe will apear ;) just like the earth that used to be considered massive and take many months if not years to travel and now we can be on the other side in less than a single day
 
I really don't think you can rule it out,even with no proof,really though do people realise that the universe is so vast,it's got to harbour life surley,i am telling you now,i would put every penny i have on he odds that there is life out there,and nothing will change that.
 
Actually I have had 3 UFO sightings in my life and 2 of them after a few minutes turned out to be normal craft.
It is important to realise that if I had walked away or the UFO's had flew out of sight, they would still be UFO's (and obviously Aliens in them).
The sighting that wasn't explained was also witnessed by at least a 1000 other people.
I went to the Victoria Hall in Hanley to watch Thin Lizzy's sister band called Wild Horses that were led by Brian Robertson the guitarist of Thin Lizzy and our local prog band called Grace were supporting (this info is to home in on the date if I can be bothered to Google).
The time was around 7:45pm and 1000s of us suddenly noticed what looked like a triangular object in the sky with lights coming off the 3 corners.
Virtually everybody in the queue's started to do the Close Encounters 5 notes and doing the hand signs which was surreal.
It was moving relatively slow and going in a direction towards Burslem.
The following night in our Sentinel was a story of a triangular shaped UFO with lights on each corner spotted over Mow Cop which was on the heading it was going towards.
I'd love to know what it really was.
 
Virtually everybody in the queue's started to do the Close Encounters 5 notes and doing the hand signs which was surreal.
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lmao

I'd love it to be real aliens just so that is the first thing they see.
 
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