do you love Kindle?

vicisthebest · 25 Apr 2012 at 21:29

I use mine an awful lot. I got my other half one for Christmas (he asked for it) but he doesn't seem to have used his that much.

waste of money.

kae2 · 25 Apr 2012 at 21:54

I love my kindle :cool:

I read 1 - 2 hours a day and wouldn't be without it.

Street · 25 Apr 2012 at 22:51

I got my ex one at Christmas and she never puts it down now. She was dead against them before she got one as she said she preferred real books.. She soon changed her mind! The support service is pretty good with them too, she managed to damage the screen somehow and they sent out a brand new one to her by the next day!

eddiemcgarrigle · 25 Apr 2012 at 22:56

I prefer real books, hardback versions.

Van Hellseek · 26 Apr 2012 at 00:37

Tummy said:
There is also a massive amount of ebooks that are cheaper then the physical copy? What's your point?

I think I made my point perfectly succinct.

But to paraphrase; eBooks are a rip off because they are usually roughly the same price as a physical copy, yet you are only receiving a digital copy. Which of course has absolutely no manufacturing costs, thus it should realistically be a fraction of the price of a physical object.

Next you'll be trying to tell me a downloaded album should cost the same as a physical CD. :rolleyes:

philip2009 · 26 Apr 2012 at 00:44

I have one of the expensive large format earlier models, I prefer dead tree books to be honest.

Frijj · 26 Apr 2012 at 01:18

I have the wifi version with the square controls, love it just wish it had a backlight option. The official case looks good but at 50%+ of the kindle price it seems a rip off!

edscdk · 26 Apr 2012 at 09:44

thanks for all the replies, I'll get her one I think...!

FNGsam · 26 Apr 2012 at 10:56

Vonhelmet said:
We've already covered the fact that something they are and sometimes they're not. Whether or not they're subject to VAT is not the sole determinant.

Ok well my next question is, would the newer best seller e-books usually be more expensive thant physical copies or does the type of book have no determination on it and is just a random publisher choice?

Talon · 26 Apr 2012 at 11:02

I have a Kindle Touch and wouldn't go back to my Kindle Keyboard. I prefer the size and how it redraws the screen on page turns. Also X-Ray is a cool feature on titles that support it.

One problem with ebook is they have VAT applied were print book don't (I believe), the actual price of a printed book to manufacture is fairly small so the difference between an ebook would also be small, smaller with the vat added. As they become even more mass market I would hope the prices would start to come down more.

SpeedFreak · 26 Apr 2012 at 14:18

My Kindle Keyboard had a faulty cluster of cells. I spoke to Amazon yesterday and my new one arrives tomorrow. The faulty one was collected today. Absolutely excellent customer service.

bam0 · 26 Apr 2012 at 15:36

Vonhelmet said:
Interesting. I imagine that'll be an anomaly that becomes increasingly pertinent.

If you are buying from Amazon though then it should only be 3% VAT as you're effectively buying it in Luxembourg, doesn't really add all that much.

Dano · 26 Apr 2012 at 15:58

Vampire said:
One of the best things about Kindle (if you're a very fast reader) is that you can buy a book, read the whole thing, then return it for a refund.

I'm not sure how long you get before the option to refund disappears from the 'Manage my Kindle' part of the account. But I've been able to beat it on 11 out of the last 14 or 15 books I've bought.

Can only hope that they ban you specifically instead of changing the option for everyone

Vampire · 26 Apr 2012 at 16:25

I'm only following their own t&c's, it's not my fault I learned to read.

Dano · 26 Apr 2012 at 16:47

Vampire said:
I'm only following their own t&c's, it's not my fault I learned to read.

Please show me where in their T&C it states that if you finish a book fast enough you are entitled to a refund.

Vonhelmet · 26 Apr 2012 at 16:48

bam0 said:
If you are buying from Amazon though then it should only be 3% VAT as you're effectively buying it in Luxembourg, doesn't really add all that much.

I'd have to look back through VATA 1994 to check the position on the delivery of goods of this sort, but I'm pretty sure it would be subject to VAT in the country in which it's received i.e. the UK.

bam0 · 26 Apr 2012 at 18:01

Vonhelmet said:
I'd have to look back through VATA 1994 to check the position on the delivery of goods of this sort, but I'm pretty sure it would be subject to VAT in the country in which it's received i.e. the UK.

I don't know why it would be VAT in the sellers location rather than the buyers, but I know the prices changed in January when the Luxembourg VAT rate did and there're plenty of articles on the web talking about exactly this.

Vonhelmet · 26 Apr 2012 at 18:50

bam0 said:
I don't know why it would be VAT in the sellers location rather than the buyers, but I know the prices changed in January when the Luxembourg VAT rate did and there're plenty of articles on the web talking about exactly this.

Uk buyers pay uk vat to amazon on ebooks supplied to the uk. Amazon pay vat to whoever they buy ebooks from at the applicable rate in Luxembourg. Amazon pay over the difference to the Luxembourg authorities. So their vat liability in Luxembourg is determined by the vat rates both here and there. As such the price of ebooks sold by amazon can be affected by vat rates both here and there.

Arnie · 26 Apr 2012 at 19:44

Commodity fetishism fad along with iPads.

Torquar · 26 Apr 2012 at 19:54

Love my Kindle keyboard. I did have to get it replaced after a couple weeks though, battery was draining in under 48 hours. Replacement works fine, a full charge lasts over a month with fairly heavy use.