See! They do eat dogs!

[Things change I've changed]

dont we have teeth to eat meat ? otherwise god would have given us all blenders

I'm not sure what your point is?, God (universe or whatever) gave us the unique ability to make blenders.

We keep getting compared to animals, we don't have to follow in their footsteps by relying solely on our instincts, that's what makes us unique, we have a choice, animals don't, with choice comes responsibly, responsibility for life that doesn't have that same ability.

 

[Skull]

Whilst most of the dogs I encountered would eat (cooked) dog meat, the one that I bought and rescued from the dinner table would never eat any. I thought that was very interesting.

 

[craarc]

would a dog eat you ? you bet it would

 

[Van Hellseek]

would a dog eat you ? you bet it would

It wouldn't because if it tried I'd kick it in the face.

 

[Edward78]

So a Chinese hot dog is made from real dog meat?

 

[Tyron]

So a cloistered inbred and utterly defenceless (by human design) poodle in some dismal granny flat will have a better life than a wild dog on the plains of Africa, free to hunt and mate and to live free.

Right.


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The same can be said for the Tribes in Africa, do you think they would prefere their life or ours?

Clearly you don't have a dog.

 

[Wolfe777]

The same can be said for the Tribes in Africa, do you think they would prefere their life or ours?

Clearly you don't have a dog.

If you said the condition was that they be sterilised to live such a life and live under massive restrictions at the behest of their masters, and be forcibly inbred too, to make them more docile and easier to control, then I reckon most of them would take the freedom of the plains.

Next.

And of course I don't have a dog, but I have in the past.

Anyway my point remains, pets in this country are primarily for the pleasure of the owners, not for the good of the animals themselves.



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[Tyron]

You make way too broad generalization not all dogs are in that position. You do know only the male dogs need to be fixed otherwise they will kill each other along with a host of problems.

So people who adopt rescue dogs? Are they selfish people also?

Either way you have some issues it seems.

 

[Wolfe777]

You make way too broad generalization not all dogs are in that position. You do know only the male dogs need to be fixed otherwise they will kill each other along with a host of problems.

So people who adopt rescue dogs? Are they selfish people also?

Either way you have some issues it seems.

Notice how I won't resort to personal slights in my response, I don't need to.

I'm not saying people that own domestic dogs are in any way diminished by doing so, in fact, caring for an animal is an admirable trait.

But what I am saying is that there is all too often a pious and self righteous attitude among pet owners as being 'animal lovers', despite the fact that their pets suffer a significant loss to make them more convenient to have around.

The fact that dogs would kill one another if not neutered is telling - that's their natural state and how it should be.

Yeah, they can still be happy if significantly altered to fit a human lifestyle but I imagine there were some castrati that thought they were happy too.

I'm not denying dogs can still have a decent life as a domestic pet and that their owners can truly share a cherished bond, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy and denial that often is so inherent in pet ownership.

After all they get denied two fairly fundamental and important rites of life to fit within a human's needs.

Freedom and sex.

Would you want to go without either?

Exactly.

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[RetiredGreyFox]

I think it's an urban myth.

Back in 2008 the Mango Tree in Stoke shut down because Enviromental Health found half a dog in the freezer.
It opened up again under new management and the former management were fined.
They denied serving dog but never gave an explanation why they had it in the freezer.
Tasted OK to me.

 

[Tefal]

Agreed, and I think I'd rather have a piggy over a dog as pet tbh,

their squeals are just too annoying and their flesh too tasty.

awwwwwww, how can you eat this.

whole, on a bap with hp sauce.

 

[Tefal]

Don't be so moronic. The vast majority of pet dogs in the world are kept in clean, safe conditions, are well fed, have access to veterinary care and are happy.

maybe in the western world but the west is a small percentage of the world, most probably live in relatively poor conditions especially were people can't get medical care let alone a vet for their pet dog.

 

[craarc]

ì have had dogs as pets, and i was upset when they died, as you would be for any pet. if i had a pet pig or a cow and it died id be upset also. but would i eat a cow a pig or a dog if it tasted good hell yes. these are not pets they are bred for food live with it it aint gonna change..

 

[dowie]

People don't complain about people eating rabbit when they are also pets, so why is it the case for dogs?
If you look at it objectively, there aren't any reasons why we don't eat them. It's just fade out of tradition and is therefore "disgusting". I can bet that it's not disgusting for most Chinese people.

Yup - Looking at it unemotionally it doesn't appear logical - Dogs and Cats will tend to have more of a personality and form more of a bond with the owner than say a rabbit, hamster, goldfish etc... well in general at least (obviously there must be a few people out there who think their pet rabbit is the best thing ever).

I don't think anyone can argue that we don't eat them because they're more intelligent as obviously pigs are highly intelligent too and we still eat them. Its just an emotional bond that lots of humans have with dogs and cats, they become part of the family and so a lot of people in this country find the idea of eating them rather repulsive.

 

[Tyron]

After all they get denied two fairly fundamental and important rites of life to fit within a human's needs.

Freedom and sex.

Would you want to go without either?

Dogs have a lot of freedom apart from going outside for obvious reasons, rgetting run over, stolen, attacked by other animals ect

The sex isn't an issue for them if they don't experience it, just like humans.

With those two things gone they are still very happy, and if we all died tomorrow they would be able to look after themselves after a while.

Let's put it another way, would you prefer the dogs to live free and suffer the same treatments from Aisa where they're being killed to be eaten or for fur or caged and tortured until it dies or to be domesticated, having a safe and loving experince without the previous dangers?

 

[Supercow]

To all the dog 'lovers' out there.


Let's say you're a dog.

You have 2 choices.


1. To be killed and eaten for food.

2. To be forcibly sterilized, chained and tethered in an attempt to deny you your natural animal instincts so you can become a homogenized and docile 'pet' for the pleasure of humans.


I think a lot of us would take the first option.


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This is, by far (in all honestly) the funniest and stupidest thing I have ever read on a forum... ever.

Maybe I should show you the reaction I get when I even dare touch go in the direction of " the symbol of my dog's oppression" (his leash for us normal folk)

Or maybe his reaction when I touch one of my mountain bikes ( the one I use when we go riding together). Or maybe how much fun he has while playing with my daughter/myself/my wife/his toys ?

Poor fella really has an awful life, being fed on a daily basis, having his own bed and toys, going for regular outings, medical care and so forth..

Awful existence indeed, if he had a choice (and if I was a dog) I'd tootally want to be eaten in stead. x infinity

 

[Wolfe777]

This is, by far (in all honestly) the funniest and stupidest thing I have ever read on a forum... ever.

Maybe I should show you the reaction I get when I even dare touch go in the direction of " the symbol of my dog's oppression" (his leash for us normal folk)

Or maybe his reaction when I touch one of my mountain bikes ( the one I use when we go riding together). Or maybe how much fun he has while playing with my daughter/myself/my wife/his toys ?

Poor fella really has an awful life, being fed on a daily basis, having his own bed and toys, going for regular outings, medical care and so forth..

Awful existence indeed, if he had a choice (and if I was a dog) I'd tootally want to be eaten in stead. x infinity

Given the relatively incoherent and rambling nature of your post, one littered with grammatical errors, spelling mistakes and fabricated quotations I find it extremely ironic you'd describe my post in such a way.

I elaborated significantly in subsequent posts, which you evidently haven’t read. As I stated, I'm sure there were castrati that were happy. It doesn't change the fact that the dog you own is more for human convenience than its own, at least in its intended natural state.

I don’t doubt that your dog is happy in the circumstances it finds itself in, but it’s a long way from what nature intended. No doubt you've had it 'fixed' for your family's convenience.

Regardless, that post you've quoted was deliberately provocative and in some ways designed to get a reaction, but the general gist of it stands.

To put it terms you might find easier to understand, I'll simplify the essence of my point.


To live in comfort or to keep your balls.


Which would you choose?


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[Andy]

I can't see how this is any different to the chickens we all eat. Humans are such hypocrites

 

[Supercow]

Given the relatively incoherent and rambling nature of your post, one littered with grammatical errors, spelling mistakes and fabricated quotations I find it extremely ironic you'd describe my post in such a way.

I elaborated significantly in subsequent posts, which you evidently haven’t read. As I stated, I'm sure there were castrati that were happy. It doesn't change the fact that the dog you own is more for human convenience than its own, at least in its intended natural state.

I don’t doubt that your dog is happy in the circumstances it finds itself in, but it’s a long way from what nature intended. No doubt you've had it 'fixed' for your family's convenience.

Regardless, that post you've quoted was deliberately provocative and in some ways designed to get a reaction, but the general gist of it stands.

To put it terms you might find easier to understand, I'll simplify the essence of my point.


To live in comfort or to keep your balls.


Which would you choose?


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Picking at typos and gramatical errors is a laughable way to try and strengthen your argument, however since we're making this personal - I'd be interested to know how well you converse in a second language?

No quotes were fabricated, you obviously lack the ability to grasp what I was saying within the context.

Being "a long way from what nature intended" - what really, that's your argument? That's about as insane as saying homosexuality is wrong, because nature intended us to procreate.

Thank you for further simplifying your point, I am indeed dim and simple - but your simplification makes no sense at all. I choose to live in comfort and keep my balls thank you very much.

 

[Wolfe777]

Picking at typos and gramatical errors is a laughable way to try and strengthen your argument, however since we're making this personal - I'd be interested to know how well you converse in a second language?

No quotes were fabricated, you obviously lack the ability to grasp what I was saying within the context.

Being "a long way from what nature intended" - what really, that's your argument? That's about as insane as saying homosexuality is wrong, because nature intended us to procreate.

Thank you for further simplifying your point, I am indeed dim and simple - but your simplification makes no sense at all. I choose to live in comfort and keep my balls thank you very much.

Now that's more like it, you're now significantly higher in my perception than the 'I LUV DOGZ, HOW DARE U!!!' impression your first post elicited from me. As for picking at grammatical errors, I did no more than point out the irony inherent in your post, given the less than stellar way you put forth your views.

As for getting personal, read my posts, I've not resorted to that at all, quite the contrary. In fact I'll compliment your politician-like ability to twist a question.

Comfort or keeping your balls.

Of course you'll choose both, as would I.

But if it's one of the other, I'll keep my balls and take my chances in the wild.

The point I'm making is that domestic dogs do not get that choice. A life of comfort in exchange for loss of sexual function. That is no less than an undeniable fact.

The bitter irony here is that I'm far from an animal lover, nor do I wish to decry anyone that is. I'm merely pointing out hypocrisy where I see it and getting amusement from some emotive responses my truthful statements are generating.

Now if you're all riled up for some kind of flame war that's all well and good but the truth is I'm typing this with a smile on my face and enjoying it. I've no doubt you're a good fellow who means well, but if you ever imply stupidity on my part be prepared to expect a full and well reasoned counterpoint.

And no I don't speak another language; I applaud you if you do. Well done. That's sincerely meant in case you think you detect any sarcasm.


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