grandmother, 94, beaten up in her bed as she slept

No they really dont, and no where near as often. I cant see or imagine anything like this happening in a lot of Asian countries.



If true then there you go.

It is true, my aunt lives there as a lecturer and the stands are all open when people go to pray
 
Can't really make sense of that.

You don't understand that your sense of moral are in the minority?

I'm opposed to torturing people as a means of revenge, and calling that justice.

And I am opposed to the idea of not torturing, so why should your morals be better than mine?

If by the majority of the world do you mean corrupt African dictatorships, Muslim theocracies, China, North Korea, and where else exactly? That's hardly the majority and it's hardly a club you want to become a member of.

LOL of course not you know they only outnumber the western world...

But feel free to go and live in one and see how happy you are.

Yes and you continue to live in a country where old ladies are beaten and robbed and the perpetrator get's a prison sentence and enjoys tv, free meals, internet and other luxuries while the lady who lived through two world wars has her lived ruined forever.
 
Torture and even death by torture is a just punishment for what was done to this woman.

If you disagree with that then YOU'RE an immoral piece of **** with zero sense of human empathy for the victim.
 
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Yes and you continue to live in a country where old ladies are beaten and robbed and the perpetrator get's a prison sentence and enjoys tv, free meals, internet and other luxuries while the lady who lived through two world wars has her lived ruined forever.

I think you're labouring under the illusion that you can somehow make things better.

You can't.

No matter what you do the poor old lady has been beaten and I imagine will never be the same again.

So who benefits by the perpetrator being tortured?
 
I think you're labouring under the illusion that you can somehow make things better.

You can't.

No matter what you do the poor old lady has been beaten and I imagine will never be the same again.

So who benefits by the perpetrator being tortured?

I don't agree with torture, but they should really fix the prisons, by that I mean make it like Turkish or Pakistani prison
 
I don't agree with torture, but they should really fix the prisons, by that I mean make it like Turkish or Pakistani prison

Because that will help crime rates...
It doesn't help a bit at all treating them like an underclass. Surely when they get out you want them to not behave like a criminal?
 
Because that will help crime rates...
It doesn't help a bit at all treating them like an underclass. Surely when they get out you want them to not behave like a criminal?

Yes it will, they need discipline, most of them trash
 
I'm with you there..if it is caught I wish we could go back to the old ways of dealing with them.

Unfortunately if caught, the criminal would get:

- A few years in jail
- Free TV, bed, meals, showers, gym and maybe other stuff too
- Rehabilitation
- Released early for good behaviour.

All paid for by tax money.
 
Of course seriously. Would you rape someone back?

No because that wouldnt stop the rapist from offending again. You chop their testicles off and then they wont have anymore urges to rape people.

Anyone capable of such a disgusting act is not going to be deterred by any torture you can dream up.

Hence you make sure they are dead after the torture. Then the next victim is safe.
 
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Torture and even death by torture is a just punishment for what was done to this woman.

If you disagree with that then YOU'RE an immoral piece of **** with zero sense of human empathy for the victim.

I disagree that people wanting to deal with this in another manner are immoral, although I do agree with the punishment, completely
 
If ever there was a case for the death penalty, this is it.
What sort of loathesome creature could do that to a frail old lady. She will not recover from this at her age.
 
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