So who is going to adopt the thousands of children that need homes then? Have you adopted any? How would a same sex couple be any worse than a single parent at raising children?
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So who is going to adopt the thousands of children that need homes then? Have you adopted any? How would a same sex couple be any worse than a single parent at raising children?
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I have read Peter Tatchell saying otherwise
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David Cameron won't be able to stop discrimination cases being brought in the ECHR
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I am all for gay rights. What people seem to miss is that "gay marriage" is not a right and this has been confirmed by the ECHR.
Another thing that people fall done on is the "it won't affect me" line of thought. Laws are not made for individuals. They are made to serve the common good.
I am all for gay rights. What people seem to miss is that "gay marriage" is not a right and this has been confirmed by the ECHR.
Another thing that people fall done on is the "it won't affect me" line of thought. Laws are not made for individuals. They are made to serve the common good.
Even the term "Gay Rights" is wrong in my eyes.
By saying that, you are making the assumption that their rights are different to everyone else!
Everyone in this country should have equal rights, which no pigeon-holing of individual groups.
And quite franking, I find the link in your footer utterly homophobic.
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The use of homophobic is a typical tool to stifle debate.
Yes, you're quite right that Article 12 does not cover same sex marriages, but I predict that it will be amended within the next ten years.
If laws are not made for individuals, or not made for 'some', how do reconcile your refusal to ensure the law is blind to sexual orientation with the aforementioned position?
The only argument you have against gay marriage is that you have been told, or 'taught' not to support it from someone or something you consider to be in authority. The rest is simply a frantic search for justification.
Yes, but when you hold such an unreasonable position, debate isn't particularly easy.
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The ECHR wouldn't have any say it what churches can or can't do. Churches aren't considered businesses so aren't subjected to the same rules.
I'm for gay marriage but would never call for Churches to be FORCED to carry them out and anyone who advocates this kind of militant attitude will only harm the chances of gay marriage being legalised.
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There are barristers who have stated otherwise
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I also hate the word homophobia. A phobia is a fear of something... people aren't scared of homosexuals. They're just *****.
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OK how would it work it practice, could a vicar be sued for not "being enthusiastic" enough when carrying a ceremony he doesn't agree with?
It's silly trying to force churches to carry out gay marriages if they don't want to and no one (except the nameless barristers you mention) are calling for it.
The question is should civil partnerships between same sex couple be recognized as marriage, I don't think even Peter Tatchell is calling for the forcing of churches to accept it.
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The same book that condones slavery....
I think the point of 'gay rights' is for them to have the same rights as everyone else, which they currently don't, hence the pigeon-holing.
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I don't know how it would work in practice. Nobody does. It would take a test case to determine that. What we have at the moment are opinions but what is clear is that David Cameron is unable to guarantee this will not be forced on places of worship. Maybe one of his cast iron guarantees but we know how worthless they are
I am not particularly interested in discussing this topic much more. It has really been done to death. I have made my case quite clearly on other threads and my position hasn't changed.
I don't think anything has been said on this thread that hasn't been said on others before.
I don't know how it would work in practice. Nobody does. It would take a test case to determine that. What we have at the moment are opinions but what is clear is that David Cameron is unable to guarantee this will not be forced on places of worship. Maybe one of his cast iron guarantees but we know how worthless they are
I am not particularly interested in discussing this topic much more. It has really been done to death. I have made my case quite clearly on other threads and my position hasn't changed.
I don't think anything has been said on this thread that hasn't been said on others before.
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Just one final point from me. Leviticus is from the Old Testament and as such was the law given to the Jews. This was superceded by the new covenant of Jesus Christ.
Christians shouldn't really be using it to make their case. Certainly not when there are better references in the new testament.
That's me done.
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Just one final point from me. Leviticus is from the Old Testament and as such was the law given to the Jews. This was superceded by the new covenant of Jesus Christ.
Christians shouldn't really be using it to make their case. Certainly not when there are better references in the new testament.
That's me done.