President Obama Endorses Gay Marriage

lol at that Colbert image, sure, because gay marriage isn't legal, gay people have to be lonely.

I don't care either way because I'm anti "marriage" in the first place, it would be utterly hypocrital of me to be against marriage but for gay marriage.

But to suggest that if you can't married you have been consigned to be alone is laughably stupid. A gay man goes to sleep, happily with someone they love, they aren't married, the next day a law is passed making gay marriage illegal, they go to sleep, with the same person, who they still love......... but are now deeply unhappy, crying and alone?

These issues are full of utterly illogical statements.

There are plenty of lonely people who ARE married, and plenty of people who aren't married who aren't lonely.

I wish people wouldn't crusade for the sake of crusade, feminists fighting for things that don't matter any more(things they should fight about do matter, but most of their causes are stupid). Why, why want to be a part of a god damned religious idea that is fundamentally anti-gay. The very idea of religion, a god who knows everything and made the world, you either buy into it, or you don't, deciding to ignore the parts you don't like for me is the most laughable thing possible. Marriage is fundamentally religious, and considering how little marriage means these days and how many people get divorced, its both a dying idea and one that wasn't very good to begin with.

You should be with people you love, if you stop loving them, sticking around unhappy because of a piece of paper.... its insane. Marriage is stupid, campaigning for the right to do something stupid, is stupid. Being married or not doesn't change the way you live your day to day life, who you fall in love with nor who you choose to spend your life with.

It's important because people arbitrarily choose to think its important, not because it actually is.
 
Fenris said:
We send everyone to school yet perplexingly everyone seems to be getting dumber.

Looks like the formula doesn't work after all.
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Not sure about that.... most people I know get more intelligent the more they learn, not sure what sort of crowd your in or what sort of school you went to :p
 
My theory is this:

It's about the power trip, and control over everyone else who is in any way different. People who want to force their views on others come up with bizarre reasons and arguments ("Religion!", "Ewww!", "Morality!", "Nature!", "Tradition!") as to why everyone else should be forced to live and behave by their rules, because in reality they know that the power they want over other people is unjust. But they love the power trip, they love the sense that if only they could eliminate diversity and make everyone identical according to a set of standards they've dreamt up and without any logical or coherent basis, somehow they would be happier and better people for it.

Brb, off to read 1984 again.
 
spankingtexan said:
Don't have to explaine anything to you other than I do not agree with same sex marraige, it is my opinion and if you don't like it then i can't help that. You are the one that seems to have a problem mate.
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What don't you agree with? That you don't want to be in one or that you don't want anyone to be in one?
 
spankingtexan said:
Don't have to explaine anything to you other than I do not agree with same sex marraige, it is my opinion and if you don't like it then i can't help that. You are the one that seems to have a problem mate.
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How do I have a problem?

You must have a basis for your opinion, but clearly you don't.

"Don't have to explain", haha.
 
drunkenmaster said:
*snip*
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Whilst there are a couple of valid points in amongst there, the answer is not to deny gays marriage rights or to somehow use that position to justify saying that gays should just STFU and accept that they are not treated equally because, in the words of a great philosopher - 'It Doesn't Matter'

If anything you should be advocating the complete separation of civil marriage and the legal rights that entails from the religious ceremonial marriage - a position which makes a lot of sense if it wasn't for the epic amount of butthurt that would emanate from the Churches and other religious institutions at the removal of a portion of their power and exclusivity.

growse said:
My theory is this:

It's about the power trip, and control over everyone else who is in any way different. People who want to force their views on others come up with bizarre reasons and arguments ("Religion!", "Ewww!", "Morality!", "Nature!", "Tradition!") as to why everyone else should be forced to live and behave by their rules, because in reality they know that the power they want over other people is unjust. But they love the power trip, they love the sense that if only they could eliminate diversity and make everyone identical according to a set of standards they've dreamt up and without any logical or coherent basis, somehow they would be happier and better people for it.

Brb, off to read 1984 again.
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I think that's probably the case in the higher echelons but at a base level I suspect it comes more down to those individuals who tie so much of their identity into 'the present' or worse 'the past' - and so any element of change or progression is seen as a threat to their identity and everything they stand for. This was summed up really well in a post earlier in this thread if I can find it.
 
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PCplodder said:
Making Gay Marriage legal can only lead to more gay people (which is most certainly not normal)

What happened when we made massive clothes for extremely fat people? More people got extremely fat thats what.....




Joking aside, I am gay and I for one support this with full force, there is nothing wrong with liking a penis up the pooper :cool:
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You had me going for a while there :D

drunkenmaster said:
lol at that Colbert image, sure, because gay marriage isn't legal, gay people have to be lonely.

blah blah blah blah...
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You do realize Stephen Colbert's character isn't real don't you?

growse said:
My theory is this:

It's about the power trip, and control over everyone else who is in any way different. People who want to force their views on others come up with bizarre reasons and arguments ("Religion!", "Ewww!", "Morality!", "Nature!", "Tradition!") as to why everyone else should be forced to live and behave by their rules, because in reality they know that the power they want over other people is unjust. But they love the power trip, they love the sense that if only they could eliminate diversity and make everyone identical according to a set of standards they've dreamt up and without any logical or coherent basis, somehow they would be happier and better people for it.

Brb, off to read 1984 again.
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So are you for, or against gay marriage? :confused::confused:
 
spankingtexan said:
because i think it is wrong, my opinion only.
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Not agreeing with it is one thing. Actually wishing for people not to get married because of that opinion is discrimination. You realize that people get hurt over this. People with actual feelings, and that have dealt with far more **** than you ever have.
 
PermaBanned said:
Not agreeing with it is one thing. Actually wishing for people not to get married because of that opinion is discrimination. You realize that people get hurt over this. People with actual feelings, and that have dealt with far more **** than you ever have.
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Realize?

I did not realise you were American.
 
RomanNose said:
Sorry I don't understand how that is any of your business.
They are two consenting adults. I am sure lots of men and women like to play with different entry points anyway.
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It's not my buisness, but it is two fully grown men entering eachothers behinds with their private parts, cant get much more wrong/sick than that!
 
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