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What? There's a chance there could be a recall, it happened with Intel, I quote a saying and you assume its purchase justification, lol.
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Does anyone know anymore about the Kepler recall rumour?
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What? There's a chance there could be a recall, it happened with Intel, I quote a saying and you assume its purchase justification, lol.
Apparently NVidia have just agreed a deal with AMD to supply replacemennt GTX670 and GTX680 parts. NVidia will rename them GTX7950 & GTX7970, but specs are as yet unconfirmed
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Don't be silly everyone. No way will NVidia perform a recall of any type unless there is something dangerously wrong with their cards that could cause them major legal and financial harm.
.Don't be silly everyone. No way will NVidia perform a recall of any type unless there is something dangerously wrong with their cards that could cause them major legal and financial harm.
Why? Because some random site nobody had heard of before fancied upping their traffic stats.
http://www.legitreviews.com/news/13188/
Scaremongering is greatNobody would buy anything if we listened to the odd idiot.
Dodgy this, dodgy that, scaremongering is ongoing in forums in one form or another, we all know it.
Lately there has been no end of talk about it in one form or another here.
What I've always maintained is, if something is genuinely fundamentally as bad as what's portrayed, nobody would buy them, simple as that, yet folks still purchase both vendors gpu's in their droves.
Dodgy this, dodgy that, scaremongering is ongoing in forums in one form or another, we all know it.
Lately there has been no end of talk about it in one form or another here.
What I've always maintained is, if something is genuinely fundamentally as bad as what's portrayed, nobody would buy them, simple as that, yet folks still purchase both vendors gpu's in their droves.
Yes we do
but you will always get:
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Yes we do
but you will always get:
Thats hilarious.
Original XBOX 360 that was sold by the millions for 3 yrs, comes to mind.
Though this one seems just rumor, the 360 wasn't. So yes it can happen.
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The same could be said about the stink (whether it's in yours or my opinion justified) surrounding AMD drivers.
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Can you enlighten us as to what the "stink" is? AFAIK, most on here are more than happy with theirs.
Fact is, there's problems with the 6** cards, and whatever way you want to paint it, folks are RMA'ing their cards.
I mean the general perception around and abouts that AMD have worse drivers... fix stuff break others etc etc. The fact your keep posting back ensuring people that you yourself have no issues and any issue is user error shows that this perception is there. As I said, whether it's justified or not is irrelevant. I was just countering your "no smoke with a fire argument".
Didn't nVidia say it was a driver problem rather than a card problem anyway?
Didn't nVidia say it was a driver problem rather than a card problem anyway?
no they said "it is likely somehow caused by polling code in our drivers"
which means they are only guessing at the cause
The conception of bad drivers from AMD/ATI are from the olden days, the drivers for the 4xxx series were poor, and crossfire was pretty broken for the 5xxx cards. 6xxx and 7xxx series drivers have been pretty good overall, a few game specific bugs and crossfire profiles, but nothing as bad as this stuttering which is affecting lots of games.
Do you really think they're guessing the cause before saying that??? Come on...
The issue of bad drivers is also from the current days as well. Crossfire for 7*** has poor for some users which post here (Locky and Besty just from memory).
There's always issues - saying rubbish like "this issue is worse than that issue" is one-dimensional and not particularly helpful.
The issue of bad drivers is also from the current days as well. Crossfire for 7*** has poor for some users which post here (Locky and Besty just from memory).
There's always issues - saying rubbish like "this issue is worse than that issue" is one-dimensional and not particularly helpful.
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AFAIK, they're happy with their crossfire cards now.
They have not said what the cause is, only made speculation on drivers so that most people assume it will be fixed easily. That is called damage limitation. It could well be driver related but also it might be hardware/bios related.
An issue which affects many games on a whole series of cards and maked the gaming experience unenjoyable regardless of driver used is worse than crossfire problems on a specific game (skyrim had crossfire problems but not now). You might not like it but it is true. Crossfire profiles are quite regularly updated, and crossfire users are only a small percentage of gamers.
For single gpu users (the majority) ati drivers havent had a universal problem which makes many games unenjoyable for a long time.
An issue which affects many games on a whole series of cards and maked the gaming experience unenjoyable regardless of driver used is worse than crossfire problems on a specific game (skyrim had crossfire problems but not now). You might not like it but it is true. Crossfire profiles are quite regularly updated, and crossfire users are only a small percentage of gamers.
For single gpu users (the majority) ati drivers havent had a universal problem which makes many games unenjoyable for a long time.
Evidence?
This stuttering issue is only affecting a small percentage of gamers. The majority as per your second point don't have issues either.
You aren't coming up with a coherent point as to why it is worse just exaggerated rhetoric. The loose talk of minorities/majorities doesn't really mean anything without numbers. My first point above is along the same lines to display this point in action as well.
Just look at Gregster's thread (by no means a complete cross section I admit) but the majority of people so far haven't had issues.
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Its obvious they said its likely caused by drivers to try and ease peoples worries, that is standard industry practice. At the point of that statement, they clearly didn't know what the problem was, perhaps they do now but haven't released a statement confirming anything.
Some people are very sensitive to stutter, and some aren't. And it clearly only affects some scenarios, so it will not always be obvious.
I maintain my point though, a problem which affects a minority of single gpu users, is worse than a problem which affects a minority of crossfire users (a minority of a minority)
Some people are very sensitive to stutter, and some aren't. And it clearly only affects some scenarios, so it will not always be obvious.
I maintain my point though, a problem which affects a minority of single gpu users, is worse than a problem which affects a minority of crossfire users (a minority of a minority)