International Friendlies - England vs Norway/Belgium [May 26th - June 2nd 2012]
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How many teams came in for him in the summer? I'd hazard a guess to say that had more of an impact on where he was playing than his loyalty.
Quite right, I wouldn't use the word damp either. I would however use the word "dump".
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Malaga came in for him. The same malaga that now have European football. Spurs reportedly interested in him for next season.
I'll bite, who do you support?
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So you think it's right then to over saturate our Premiership football teams with players from abroad? Yeah right.
More home grown quality ENGLISH players is what we need to make a good England squad and in it's current form we don't have much quality to choose from.
I'm sticking to my guns as I know loads of football fans who think the same way as me.
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The same Malaga that have European football, without Green?
Why does who I support have anything to do with my opinion on Green?
You asked who were in for him?
My point is with the amount they were investing, european football was a realistic possability. He would have been aware of this.
How much of him have you seen this season?
They were only missing the Bayern contingent.
You asked who were in for him?
My point is with the amount they were investing, european football was a realistic possability. He would have been aware of this.
How much of him have you seen this season?
5/6 games? Do I need to watch every game to have an opinion on a player?
That's in one season, a season where the team he played in finished 3rd. I'd be worried if he DIDN'T have a good season in those circumstances.
Take tonight, last 20 minutes he did ok in fairness. But before that, all over the place. Prime example? Pedersens corner, he's lucky he didn't make himself look a compete arse in an England shirt for the second time in what, 10 games?
Dump is a bit strong, but I certainly don't rate him.
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Meh, same old mundane, was never going to be any different when you play the same average players that have had plenty of chances before.
Only reason I'm looking forward to the Belgium game is to see what Hazard can do to English players, might give us an indication of what Utd fans have in store for them next season.
Only reason I'm looking forward to the Belgium game is to see what Hazard can do to English players, might give us an indication of what Utd fans have in store for them next season.
Well I respect your opinion. I differ but atleast we can agree he doesn't fill either of us with confidence.
Fair play mate.
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Really not convinced with Phil Jones as RB. Definitely needs to be either Richards or Johnson or failing that Walker. Jones always works better as midfield player than in defence. He just looks too clumsy. Even in Midfield I am not sure he would fit.
Problem is, time after time with England is it seems to be every man for himself. When we push forward everyone darts ahead but don't actually think to help get into a space where they can keep possession and hold the ball. Everyone just goes up front wanting to score, but nobody works together with any build up play for a decent attack.
We got RM, LM, RW, LW and semi decent set of strikers but not any decent CM players to hold the midfield. We need someone like Xavi to hold the midfield and control possession, but unfortunately we don't. And because we all dart forward pretty carelessly I see the same problems we had with Germany in 2010 if we are not careful.
Problem is, time after time with England is it seems to be every man for himself. When we push forward everyone darts ahead but don't actually think to help get into a space where they can keep possession and hold the ball. Everyone just goes up front wanting to score, but nobody works together with any build up play for a decent attack.
We got RM, LM, RW, LW and semi decent set of strikers but not any decent CM players to hold the midfield. We need someone like Xavi to hold the midfield and control possession, but unfortunately we don't. And because we all dart forward pretty carelessly I see the same problems we had with Germany in 2010 if we are not careful.
If we don't have players from abroad we get lumped with a league that looks like the game tonight...
There has to be a balance to make sure the game in England is entertaining but also nurtures and develops English players.
"home grown ENGLISH players" are the only people eligible to play for England
so I don't see how forcing them to play in a league of mediocrity (without foreign players) will help them at all.You can't blame the premier league's make up for a rubbish England squad, you can though blame the people who pick the England squad because it is oh so very hard to pick one without the media breathing down everyones neck... Or you could blame the English players for believing their own hype too quickly then being tossed out as soon as they don't instantly make it (though in Walcott's case he hasn't really).
Anyway I'm sticking to my guns as I know loads of football fans who think the same way as me.
I'm still quite amazed Carrick isn't an integral part of our midfield.
Nobody thinks he's Xavi, but he's a lot better than most other people we have, and he's also got a lot of big match and winning experience.
I know he asked to be left out, but they should have convinced him.
Nobody thinks he's Xavi, but he's a lot better than most other people we have, and he's also got a lot of big match and winning experience.
I know he asked to be left out, but they should have convinced him.
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If we don't have players from abroad we get lumped with a league that looks like the game tonight...
There has to be a balance to make sure the game in England is entertaining but also nurtures and develops English players.
"home grown ENGLISH players" are the only people eligible to play for England
You can't blame the premier league's make up for a rubbish England squad, you can though blame the people who pick the England squad because it is oh so very hard to pick one without the media breathing down everyones neck... Or you could blame the English players for believing their own hype too quickly then being tossed out as soon as they don't instantly make it (though in Walcott's case he hasn't really).
Anyway I'm sticking to my guns as I know loads of football fans who think the same way as me.
I do agree that there has to be a balance or the Premiership would get boring, I just think there should be more of a strict cap on how many foreign players to each Premiership team to encourage more 'home grown talent' as it's the home grown talent that gets picked for the England squad and I do believe we need more quality English players brought up through the ranks.
e.g Andy Carroll as a forward? He's total carp IMO.
Peace.
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^^^ ^^^
Yeah I know that.
I do agree that there has to be a balance or the Premiership would get boring, I just think there should be more of a strict cap on how many foreign players to each Premiership team to encourage more 'home grown talent' as it's the home grown talent that gets picked for the England squad and I do believe we need more quality English players brought up through the ranks.
e.g Andy Carroll as a forward? He's total carp IMO.
Peace.
There's no point in a cap though as it'll just make it England players even more over rated and sort after, despite being no good. All it'll do is (further) over inflate prices of mediocre players.
What premier league teams need to do is develop their training facilities and youth facilities instead of let a few teams do it and splash money about (although this method does keep Crew in business which isn't too bad).
Carroll is just a product of the media looking for the "next big thing" without anyone able to remember he's nasty useless player. Gutted so many better players have been over looked for him because he commanded as stupid transfer fee and has the FM style HE COULD BE AMAZING tag, despite not. (I wanted Lambert or Holt in his place). so yeah I agree he's terrible