Asking for a pay rise after 3 months?

Sime

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Basically I started a new job about a month and a half ago. The job stated that the position was between 18 - 30k. I went through the interviews and the such - was offered the job at 18k. They said this was because it looks like I would need trained to get up to the standards they would need and understand the company. Fair enough I thought - I accepted as I had never really done this specific role before and wasn't sure if I could do it to the level they were excepting.

Anyways roll up to today's date and it turns out not only am I good at the job but everyone above me (CEO, Managers) are amazed at the work im doing (2D Plans and 3D Visuals). From day one I haven't had any training of the software or company (which was one of the reasons I was on told this role would be 18k) and have just got on with the work required left to my own devices and have met all there exceptions and more.

Another reason for asking for the raise is now ive been there for a while I know what involved in the role and to be honest I literally doing 3 or 4 positions all on my own.

Im my old company I was on 18k doing standard 3D modelling (creating things that exist in the real world in 3D) which I feel was probably fair to be honest.

Now in this new role - not only am I the only person in this new department (effectively I am the 3D visual side of the company) but I design ( I have to create things that don't exist so creating concepts) everything as well. In addition I am using other 2D programs (again not training) to design floor plans and concept layouts for new shop fits. Ive actually been told that I have replaced 2 ex-employees who did just the 2D layouts alone! So im literally doing there work plus starting up the 3D department...

I just feel that I deserve a little more due to the amount of responsibly I have on my shoulders.

Has anyone ever been in the same situation? Would you do the same?

Thanks everyone :)
 
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Sime said:
Basically I started a new job about a month and a half ago. The job stated that the position was between 18 - 30k. I went through the interviews and the such - was offered the job at 18k. They said this was because I would need trained to get upto the standards they would need and understand the company. Fair enough - I accepted as I had never really done this specific role before and wasn't sure if I could do it to the level they were excepting.

Anyways roll up to today's date and it turns out not only am I good at the job but everyone above me is amazed at the work im doing (3D Visuals). From day one I haven't had any training since starting and just got on with the work required left to my own devices and have met all there expections and more.

Another reason for asking for the raise is now ive been there for a while I know what involved in teh role and to be honest I litterally doing 3 or 4 positions all on my own.

Im my old company I was on 18k doing standard 3D modelling (creating things that exist in the real world in 3D) which I feel was probably fair to be honest.

Now in this new role - not only am I the only person in this new department (effectively I am the 3D visual side of the company) but I design ( I have to create things that don't exist so creating concepts) everything as well. In addition I am using other 2D programs to design floor plans and concept layouts for new shop fits. Ive actually been told that I have replaced 2 ex-employees who did just the 2D layouts alone! So im literally doing there work plus starting up the 3D department...

I just feel that I deserve a little more due to the amount of responsibly I have on my shoulders.

Has anyone ever been in the same situation? Would you do the same?

Thanks everyone :)
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Wait for your quarterly / 6 month review?
 
I'd definitely be inclined to leave it a little longer then go to them with some examples of projects or whatever that you've worked on for them that are a great sucess for the company as justification for asking for a payrise.
 
3 months is a bit soon. My probation at my old job was 6 months, so I just asked at the 6-month stage and got a small (£500) payrise out of it.

My current employer does annual reviews, and I may get a small (£500) payrise if I meet all of my targets.
 
Start making a list (your already off to a good start) bring it up in your review. See how they react, don't be afraid to negotiate. If your bing them money by doing 2-3 people's jobs then state so.

Don't ask don't get.
 
First of all well done in your new job and give yourself a pat on the back:) Its cheeky being in a job just a month and half asking for a payrise! Just wait a while and continue doing a stella job and hit a slamdunk at the review and show examples on how well you are doing.
 
They were a bit cheeky in the first place offering you the job at £18k I think, they clearly know the pay scale for such a position and they paid you the rate for someone that wants to get into that area and will need to be trained. You clearly don't need training if what you say is true and you should be asking atleast £25K out of them if they offered the job to a person that could do it for £30K.

A lot of companies are taking the micky out of I.T staff these days and paying peanuts to people that worked hard to get to where they are and paying them almost what a person working at the end of a POS gets. I would speak to your boss and state what you mentioned and make a full list and ask for a meeting with him/her and explain you have clearly seen and have been told by the members of the staff and the CEO that your work is great. Ask your boss if they would have known you were so able at the interview to do the job as you have shown, what would have been the pay they would have offered you and ask for that. £18K for what you are doing sounds like peanuts to me. :(.

I would ask yes but at 6 weeks workign for them.... No, not yet maybe as you have said when it comes to 3 months ask for a meeting with your boss. As others have said ... "Don't Ask .. Don't Get".


It also depends on your age remember what pay you will get, yes some will say age has nothing to do with it.. but it does.. as single young person that maybe very able to do a job will always get less than a person older and just as able.
 
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The general opinion seems to be to wait another 3 months before bringing it up and I would agree with that. But (there's always a but) I would start gathering evidence now. Keep notes, keep meeting notes, deadlines and show they've been met on time or even early. keep a note of the expectations of staff and show where you've gone beyond 'your' job and saved the company money or have done something the comapny really should have someone else doing. basically show them that if you were to leave then they'd be up the creek and possibly even have to hire two people or train someone up which will cost the company thousands. I would warn you though, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to fob you off completely or make you wait for your yearly review.
 
Marky said:
I would personally leave it for at least another 3 months...
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Monserrat said:
3 months is a bit soon. My probation at my old job was 6 months, so I just asked at the 6-month stage and got a small (£500) payrise out of it.

My current employer does annual reviews, and I may get a small (£500) payrise if I meet all of my targets.
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Rroff said:
I'd definitely be inclined to leave it a little longer then go to them with some examples of projects or whatever that you've worked on for them that are a great sucess for the company as justification for asking for a payrise.
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Agree with these guys. Its a tad cheeky after only 3 months. You'd also be able to really amass a large amount of evidence to prove your worth after 6-12 months anyway.
 
Personally, keep a record of everything and wait until your probation meeting.

They won't just want to see that you can do the work but that you can maintain the pace of work. You might also find that they will bring up the increase in salary in that meeting. If then it's something you aren't happy with, you can argue the point with the evidence you have collected! :)
 
tbh the reason I said 3 months is I know for a fact that I will have a 3 month probation review. I have no doubt they will keep me on and they will sing my praises which is why im thinking its the perfect time to talk about it.
 
Sime said:
tbh the reason I said 3 months is I know for a fact that I will have a 3 month probation review. I have no doubt they will keep me on and they will sing my praises which is why im thinking its the perfect time to talk about it.
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Yup - tis fine to bring up IMO. I was in a very similar situation about 5 years ago where I was brought into the company at the lower end of a wide-ish salary range. After 3 months I got a significant rise which brought me to the higher end of what they were originally offering - I didn't actually ask for it it myself rather I was simply told during the meeting with my manager that I'd performed well, HR had reviewed salaries and they felt they'd brought me on on a low rate etc...
 
I wouldnt be afraid to bring it up, you were pushed down to the bottom of their range for reasons that clearly dont apply, you shouldnt now have to try and make it up in annual increments, you should try to make sure that when your trial period is over and you get a permanent contract its on a deal you are happy with

they are obviously happy with your work, you have exceeded their expectations and are the right person for the job, so they want to retain you rather than looking for someone new who wont necessarily be as capable or eager
 
Sin_Chase said:
Bring it up at probation review, wait for them to confirm they are happy with everything then mention it. Not before.
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Totally agree.

YOU think you are gods gift in the role, and you've heard what could also be encouragement as they might perceive a lack of confidence/something.

You also need to be realistic as to what rise you get. If you came in on 18 and asked for 25 after 3 months and I was your boss..... Unless the sun literally shone out of your arse I'd laugh my face off/ tell you to be slightly more realistic and maybe offer 20k....
 
In my first IT job, I felt I was under paid. I went from 18k to 27k in one go! (that was 6 years ago now).

Like others have said, if you don't ask, you don't get!
 
If you do it right then there's no harm in it. At worst it'll give them something to think about at the 6 month review and increase your chances at that point.

Don't be too aggressive - you may be worth more than they're paying you, but that doesn't show on paper, which is why they gave you a lower starting salary. You want to stay in the place you're working, if you're doing well there, not every job suits every person.
 
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