Supporting equal rights for gays

[Damien];22017322 said:
Are you trying to claim that only actions beneficial to reproduction are justifiable?

Biologically the very same mechanism that causes children to obey their parents without question (because you know, if a parent says don't poke a lion they might be telling the truth) is also responsible for the indoctrination that a large proportion of religious people undertook.

How's that for biology?
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Clearly the structure of the male and female anatomy is designed for the normal male/female relationship.
 
Eeeeeethan said:
I don't think its fair that you can say its not ok to be gay just because orifices have other functions.

As for your Adam and Even nonsense, are you ok with incest?
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There's no point dude, holymonk lives up to his name, and no amount of convincing will change his view. Just add him to your "don't do any business with" list like I do and leave it at that. :p
 
holymonk said:
Clearly the structure of the male and female anatomy is designed for the normal male/female relationship.
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And clearly the mechanism I mentioned is to do with safety, and not recruiting troops for the religion. The mechanism to do with pleasure and addiction is to do with eating high calorie foods and other life extending pursuits, and not getting off your face on coke.

My point is, nearly everything we do is a corruption of things that were once vital to survival, including religion.

Please don't use such antagonistic terms for religion, there's no need for it.
 
Castiel said:
The bible is a collection of texts that encompass a whole range of literature, poetry, history, law, and analogy and song. It is not the literal word of God, neither is it simply a bunch of stories......

The crazy thing about American Biblical Literalism is much of what they hold to be true and foretold by the Bible, the Rapture being a prime example, are not even in the Bible....the Rapture being largely a 15th century invention of a man who liked to hang young women for witchcraft. Only the other day I was talking to someone supposedly who went to a seminary that actually believed that God gave the Septuagint to Jesus, who passed it onto Paul of Tarsus....:D

My point is that don't take these people's opinion as gospel (;)) when judging the Bible or what it is supposed to be, which ultimately is as a guide to an individuals spirituality and relationship with their God. Because of the nature of the Bible it is practically impossible to say this or that is definitively the purpose of the bible, as that is subjective to the individual to a great extent and in a good many cases what American (and others) Evangelicals believe has little to do with the Bible and everything to do with their politics and prejudices.
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true - its all good stuff. i just wish we were allowed to beat our slaves these days <facepalm>

there is plenty of absolute ****e in there too though, isnt there?

stupid people (not you) shouldnt be allowed to read books that claim everything is true and literal (i.e. the USA) apart from maybe the dictionary.
 
Arguing with a Christian is like playing chess with a pigeon. You can be the best chess player in the world, but the pigeon is still going to just knock over all the pieces and strut about triumphantly.
 
Ascendancy said:
Arguing with a Christian is like playing chess with a pigeon. You can be the best chess player in the world, but the pigeon is still going to just knock over all the pieces and strut about triumphantly.
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Okay - that quote alone has made trawling through this entire thread worthwhile :D
 
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