Also that is casual and seasonal work, it doesn't need ANY experience, its a total non job in terms of supporting someone for life.
Unemployed bussed in to steward jubilee, unpaid and asked to sleep rough
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Also that is casual and seasonal work, it doesn't need ANY experience, its a total non job in terms of supporting someone for life.
Yes, I agree - that is the one area of the article that, if true, would be dodgy.
Then again I doubt they all held it in for 14 hours or ****ed in the street in front of crowds... I'd assume there were loos that were used perhpas not within a few meters of where they were standing though.
Another link for hatter the mad...http://www.g4swelfaretowork.com/jobseekers/
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They're not running the programme, they're just participating in it. Ditto.
Where the paid employees treated any differently? Seems par for the course for event stewards.
its work... its work experience, a potential foot in the door doing something, other more permanent event based roles, security work etc... not exactly ground breaking but surely better than sitting at home fapping to trisha
I'd hate to have your defeatist attitude if I was ever down on my luck - with that sort of negativity its not hard to see why some people end up unemployed long term.
You mean:
what experience do you have ?
I did a level 2 NVQ in spectator safety while working as a steward for the Queen's diamond jubilee.
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Indeed, These people are getting a golden ticket with regards to stewarding in future. Past jobs: Queens Jubilee and possibly the olympics! And a qualification!
I'd sign up if I was looking for work in that sector, And honestly, I'd probably just not sleep or you know, make arrangements for myself.
I'd sign up if I was looking for work in that sector, And honestly, I'd probably just not sleep or you know, make arrangements for myself.
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However, it does drive me nuts when for the last decade kids have been moaning about not being able to find work because all of the work requires experience which they can't yet, and then when offered experience on a plate, it's slave labour.
Did I miss something here? Did those kids who slept rough and dressed themselves in public not really do it?
I don't have a problem with short term period of work experience for job seekers who have been unable to find something. Though for longer periods perhaps a scheme where employers could top up benefits for a set period could work. Would have to be new roles created for the scheme as it wouldn't be constructive to replace current minimum wage workers with govt subsidised ones. Employer gets a worker for less than minimum wage and so perhaps is able to create a role where paying minimum wage would otherwise be of marginal benefit to the employer. Get people who are long term unemployed involved - the govt would be paying them benefits anyway and the employer get the use of a worker for less than minimum wage.
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Didn't they volunteer for it? I thought this particular placement was under the voluntary experience component of the WP.
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I think people on the International Space Station can see the chip on your shoulder.
No they are running it, G4S is runs the Wigan one, why are you splitting hairs, the government have very little input into the programmer. Cheaper for them to pay a business with links to political parties then set it up with Civil service staff.
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this is all about the oppression of the poor and sick, the whole welfare system is oppressive and the right wing press are spinning it even more so, thats why the idiots in this thread can't see a problem with this
"Volunteered" in inverted commas I think - there seems to be considerable confusion about which unpaid labour is compulsory and which is voluntary, which of course is the point. I'm pretty sure that they didn't volunteer to sleep rough under London Bridge, get changed in public and work for 14 hours with no access to toilets however.
Don't have a problem with them, voluntarily or not, getting people that are genuinely long term unemployed, don't have a family dependant on them, etc. into doing the odd thing like this if its just a couple of days now and again... but they very definitely should have been provided with a hostel type environment to stay in as a minimum, provided with atleast one meal and given a budget for extra meals/expenses (even if it is just £10 a day). Taking it at face value whoever was responsible for them sleeping under a bridge and not provided with adequate factilities while no doubt under threat of losing their benefits (real or not) should be prosecuted.
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I think it is disgusting asking people to sleep under a bridge. Whoever within that company thought that was an acceptable way of treating someone that volunteers should be sacked.
I don't have a problem not paying them IF the benefits they receive is equal or greater than minimum wage, if not then the difference should be made up. Everyone that works should be entitled to At least minimum wage anything less is exploitation IMO.
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