700 on a new gaming rig, can you take a look at my spec

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YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £189.95
1 x MSI Z77A-G45 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £109.6
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT128M4SSD2) £99.95
1 x Noctua NH-D14 Dual Radiator CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366/LGA1156/LGA1155/LGA775/AM2/AM2) £72.98
1 x OCZ ZT 550W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply £63.98
1 x Samsung Green (MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz 30nm Dual Channel Kit £53.99
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £49.99
1 x LG GH24NS90 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £18.98
Total : £674.42 (includes shipping : £12.50).



My old e6300 system is starting to show its age so its time for a new rig, my main use will be gaming I aready have a copy of Windows 7, mouse and keyboard, monitor and a HD5770 graphics card as a temporary measure until I can afford a decent £200-£300 pound card in a few weeks time.

I want to overclock the 3750 pretty high, how fast do you guys think i'll be able to take it and how complicated is it.. things have changed a lot since I overclocked my old e6300 @ 2.9ghz :rolleyes:
 
Ah yea but i was under the impression that the Samsung Green ram is a lot easier to overclock and runs faster with the 30nm silicon? Ah yea and the Gelid Tranquilo do you think I'll be able to hit 4.5-4.6 Ghz with that cooler I want to overclock as much as possible on air
 
Ah nice one for finding that PSU, looks a lot better. And yea sorry I forgot to mention I have a spare hard drive im going to use for storage etc is there anything else that i could change, does the motherboard look ok for overclocking?
 
Couple of changes

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £189.95
1 x Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £109.99
1 x Sandisk Extreme SSD 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - (SDSSDX-120G-G25) £89.99
1 x Zalman CNPS20LQ CPU Liquid Cooler (Socket LGA2011/1155/1156/1366/AMD FM1/AM3+/AM3/AM2+/AM2) £75.98
1 x Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular 700W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £64.99
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £49.99
1 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00CEU) £38.39
1 x LG GH24NS90 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £18.98
Total : £653.27 (includes shipping : £12.50).



Same CPU. The mobo is from GB who have UK based RMA, 3 year warranty. The mobo also does Xfire properly and SLI. That samsung RAM is overkill for this socket, 1600Mhz is the sweet spot, the CPU OC is done via the CPU multiplier (ratio).

Changed the PSU to a 700W modular supply, its a bargain on that offer. The 600W is the same price nearly, with the 700W PSU you could Xfire say the 7850 (£200 GPU).

Added an alternative to the M4, slightly cheaper and has a better write speed. I do like the Z9 case (i own one myself), added a closed loop cooler from Zalman. The noctua cooler is good but massive (The Z9 is a midi tower remember). You could consider a cheaper air cooler such as the gelid tranquillo. That will get you to 4.4Ghz easy enough for less cash.

I thought seeing as the Z9 has plenty of fans you can easily set the zalman cooler to push/pull (2 fans either side of the radiator), this should help airflow in the case keeping the temp down and this helps keep the GPU cooler. The 7850s OC very well for example, so the cooler you can keep them the better.

Hope this helps, any questions or problems you know where to find us
 
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As far as the ram goes im not to sure im not to sure on that so you're probably right xD
I've had my i5 2500k on 4.5 Ghz at reasonable temps with a gelid but i've dropped it back down to normal because i dont ever need that much power xD
If you want to completely max your oc then the gelid might not handle it.
In my opinion £73 is allot to pay for a cooler unless you're water cooling.
However the noctua is a monster and will certainly have good temps for high overclocks :)
 
Thanks for the replies!

That motherboard looks good and I like the sound of the UK based RMA can I just ask will it perform just as good as the MSI motherboard though?

I heard read on some other forums that people had has problems with the Sandisk extreme though and reccommended to go with the M4 for reliability?

And how does the Zalman closed loop compare to the Noctuna for temps when overclocking?
 
Greavesy said:
As far as the ram goes im not to sure im not to sure on that so you're probably right xD
I've had my i5 2500k on 4.5 Ghz at reasonable temps with a gelid but i've dropped it back down to normal because i dont ever need that much power xD
If you want to completely max your oc then the gelid might not handle it.
In my opinion £73 is allot to pay for a cooler unless you're water cooling.
However the noctua is a monster and will certainly have good temps for high overclocks :)
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What I try to do is find a stable overclock where the speed step on Intel or cool and quiet on AMD cpus works. This means the CPU can idle at a much lower speed and uses less power and runs cooler.

When you need it to work, it will throttle up to the overclock you set so you get that extra oompf when you need it most :) As you push for higher overclocks this "idle mode" becomes disabled and the CPU speed is set to max. If you use CPU-Z it will tell you the current speed of the CPU and you can tell if it's idling or not.
 
Is right honosuseri that was one of my next questions mate I wanted to know if I could set it to run at my overclock speeds when i need it to and then tone it down a bit when I'm just browsing the web, so you've answered that question :) does it lower the voltage provided to the processor aswell?
 
dannykebab said:
Thanks for the replies!

That motherboard looks good and I like the sound of the UK based RMA can I just ask will it perform just as good as the MSI motherboard though?

I heard read on some other forums that people had has problems with the Sandisk extreme though and reccommended to go with the M4 for reliability?

And how does the Zalman closed loop compare to the Noctuna for temps when overclocking?
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I'm 99% sure that MSI mobo doesn't do SLI mode. Seeing as you haven't settled on a GPU for definate, it's nice to know the GB mobo can dual card AMD or Nvidia.

The M4 has an excellent reputation. These SSD drives get updated firmwares to address issues and performance, I just wanted to show an alternative for you to consider.

As i explained earlier you don't really want to be pushing for a maximum OC. I have the gelid tranquillo in my Z9 and i wouldnt call it a small heatsink, certainly when compared to the stock heatsink. In all honesty that's all you would really need, it's quiet and cools well for the price. Rather than spend more on the heatsink maybe think about getting a larger case.

YOUR BASKET
1 x BitFenix Shinobi XL Case with 2 x 120mm Spectre PRO White Fans for FREE! £119.99
Total : £119.99 (includes shipping : FREE).



I can tell you now if you wanted to dual card the GPU, the second card would sit very close to the PSU in the Z9. Not ideal really as the PSU is blocking airflow. It's quite literally a case of having room to breathe ;)
 
honosuseri said:
Couple of changes

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £189.95
1 x Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £109.99
1 x Sandisk Extreme SSD 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - (SDSSDX-120G-G25) £89.99
1 x Zalman CNPS20LQ CPU Liquid Cooler (Socket LGA2011/1155/1156/1366/AMD FM1/AM3+/AM3/AM2+/AM2) £75.98
1 x Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular 700W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £64.99
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £49.99
1 x Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00CEU) £38.39
1 x LG GH24NS90 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £18.98
Total : £653.27 (includes shipping : £12.50).



Same CPU. The mobo is from GB who have UK based RMA, 3 year warranty. The mobo also does Xfire properly and SLI. That samsung RAM is overkill for this socket, 1600Mhz is the sweet spot, the CPU OC is done via the CPU multiplier (ratio).

Changed the PSU to a 700W modular supply, its a bargain on that offer. The 600W is the same price nearly, with the 700W PSU you could Xfire say the 7850 (£200 GPU).

Added an alternative to the M4, slightly cheaper and has a better write speed. I do like the Z9 case (i own one myself), added a closed loop cooler from Zalman. The noctua cooler is good but massive (The Z9 is a midi tower remember). You could consider a cheaper air cooler such as the gelid tranquillo. That will get you to 4.4Ghz easy enough for less cash.

I thought seeing as the Z9 has plenty of fans you can easily set the zalman cooler to push/pull (2 fans either side of the radiator), this should help airflow in the case keeping the temp down and this helps keep the GPU cooler. The 7850s OC very well for example, so the cooler you can keep them the better.

Hope this helps, any questions or problems you know where to find us
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Whats so good with that Zalman cooler? Antec Kuhler 620 is same size but cheaper, and Corsair H100 is a little bit more expensive but has big radiator.
 
honosuseri said:
I'm 99% sure that MSI mobo doesn't do SLI mode. Seeing as you haven't settled on a GPU for definate, it's nice to know the GB mobo can dual card AMD or Nvidia.

The M4 has an excellent reputation. These SSD drives get updated firmwares to address issues and performance, I just wanted to show an alternative for you to consider.

As i explained earlier you don't really want to be pushing for a maximum OC. I have the gelid tranquillo in my Z9 and i wouldnt call it a small heatsink, certainly when compared to the stock heatsink. In all honesty that's all you would really need, it's quiet and cools well for the price. Rather than spend more on the heatsink maybe think about getting a larger case.

YOUR BASKET
1 x BitFenix Shinobi XL Case with 2 x 120mm Spectre PRO White Fans for FREE! £119.99
Total : £119.99 (includes shipping : FREE).



I can tell you now if you wanted to dual card the GPU, the second card would sit very close to the PSU in the Z9. Not ideal really as the PSU is blocking airflow. It's quite literally a case of having room to breathe ;)
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TERRIBLE for aircooling, Only get this if you want to watercool. Its been said many times now
 
The H100 doesn't fit in the Z9 for a start. There is nothing amazing about the Zalman cooler, it's just was roughly the same price as the noctua and branded alongside the case. Some people like to keep a theme with brands and colours. I'm not going to defend the closed loop cooler, I have already said that a good budget air cooler would be more than sufficient and much cheaper and the better way to go.

The case is personal preference. I should have linked Stulids review for the XL case (I shall do this here)

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18386215

I'm making suggestions for the OP to consider. I do like the Z9 case, if he isn't bothered about Xfire then I would stick with the Z9, you get a lot for your money with that case. Other people are welcome to make suggestions for him to consider.
 
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Heres how my basket looks so far guys, i've decided to stick with the MSI board over the gigabyte as i have never had to RMA a board before so the uk based RMA isnt that much of a benefit to me and ive discovered the MSI board does support SLI and Crossfire but only at dual PCIe x8. does everything look ok?

Oh and by the way does anybody know how the Gelid Tranquilo compares to the newer Gelid Tranquilo Rev.2?


YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £189.95
1 x MSI Z77A-G45 Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £109.6
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT128M4SSD2) £99.95
1 x Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular 700W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £64.99
1 x Samsung Green (MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz 30nm Dual Channel Kit £53.99
1 x Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £49.99
1 x Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £25.99
1 x LG GH24NS90 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £18.98
Total : £628.44 (includes shipping : £12.50).

 
but what if i wanted to push the fsb on my 3570k wouldnt the samsung memory put me in a better position to do that, what was the sweet spot you mentioned earlier at 16000mhz? are you saying taking the cpu/memory past that wont be beneficial to performance. I also like the fact theyre 30nm and use less power :)
 
dannykebab said:
but what if i wanted to push the fsb on my 3570k wouldnt the samsung memory put me in a better position to do that, what was the sweet spot you mentioned earlier at 16000mhz? are you saying taking the cpu/memory past that wont be beneficial to performance. I also like the fact theyre 30nm and use less power :)
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Over 1600mhz makes hardly any difference to performance on the 1155 socket. Im not saying that samsung RAM is rubbish just OTT, if you want it buy it.

That GEIL RAM is selling fast (5 left), it might be CAS11 but in the real world that makes no odds.....that's what I would go for alongside the GB mobo, it would look nice on the Asrock extreme 4 mobo but that is more than the MSI or GB mobo.
 
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