To me that's simply passing on the left and keeping up with the flow of traffic, surely not a problem.
Undertaking would be deliberately going out of your way to move over to the left and pass cars, then moving back over which is a problem.
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To me that's simply passing on the left and keeping up with the flow of traffic, surely not a problem.
Undertaking would be deliberately going out of your way to move over to the left and pass cars, then moving back over which is a problem.
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The Highway Code does not reference 'undertaking', it says 'Pass on the right'.
I was under the impression passing on the left was only acceptable in heavy traffic on the basis that if people refused to 'undertake' when the left lane moved forward you'd just create complete bedlam.
Flying down the inside of someone at 90mph because they're in the middle lane doesn't count I don't think
Flying down the inside of someone at 90mph because they're in the middle lane doesn't count I don't think
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Indeed, but the point still remains as Kenai's quote of the highway code points out. I should have clarified the passing on the left as only being deemed acceptable in traffic. Anyone going out of their way to pass on the left is in the wrong.
Funny how the people with mindsets like that always feel the need to post quotes.
You deny police incompetence is not a daily occurance? LOL clearly you don't spend much time around the police. Bloody part time wannabe specials
Yes, truly the idea that greater more experienced minds than I could come up with much better turns of phrase and literary works than I probably ever will is the hight of comedy??
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Sounds like a brilliant idea, something seriously needs to be done with lane discipline in this country it's shocking, also the amount of braking on motorways is beyond retarded. I'm fairly sure the majority of the motoring public focus only on the car directly in front of them whilst driving.
I also think anyone caught with a satnav stuck within the MOT screen chip fail zone should receive points and a fine.
I also think anyone caught with a satnav stuck within the MOT screen chip fail zone should receive points and a fine.
It never ceases to amaze me the stupid places people stick nav screens.
LOL, fines don't get paid into police coffers
Of course it happens on a daily basis just like any other job. Next you will be saying not to go for that urgent life-saving hospital operation and quoting figures of the amount of people that die during said operations
"better to remain silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt" - Abraham Lincoln and others
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Of course it happens on a daily basis just like any other job. Next you will be saying not to go for that urgent life-saving hospital operation and quoting figures of the amount of people that die during said operations
At least in the case of medical staff incompetency and/or abuse of power is fairly easy to contest. In this situation the courts are nearly always going to side with the Police officer unless you have irrefutable evidence to prove otherwise.
I've said it before in threads like this, and I'll say it again. I do not like nor do I trust the Police force and I think anybody who is happy giving them more power that cannot be fairly contested in a court of law is woefully naive.
Are you talking from a point of experience (personal or other documented evidence) with loads of cases where it is 1 cop's word against someone else's and the courts just take the cop's word as fact or is it just hyperbole?
As for giving them more power - it is not really. If you don't accept that you did anything wrong then don't pay the ticket and have your day in court (should the CPS/PF proceed). This "new" method is just to stop things going to court that don't need to i.e. where the accused is happy to plead guilty by means of paying a fixed penalty. It also frees up the cop to do more policing given that they now don't have to spend hours preparing casework.
As for giving them more power - it is not really. If you don't accept that you did anything wrong then don't pay the ticket and have your day in court (should the CPS/PF proceed). This "new" method is just to stop things going to court that don't need to i.e. where the accused is happy to plead guilty by means of paying a fixed penalty. It also frees up the cop to do more policing given that they now don't have to spend hours preparing casework.