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***AMD Radeon HD7970 GHZ Edition - Official Reviews Thread***

Rusty0611 said:
Anomaly.

It happens. That's why it's good there's more than one review to look at.
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Try to think: you can get unusually low results for a card. But you cannot get unusually high results. You cannot score a 3DMark record by accident can you? Has anyone accidentally scored a too high score in benchmarking thread on this forum? And especially not in a broad range of titles.

For example again and again there happen situations, where other websites cannot overclock the card properly, while Techpowerup can. 7850 for example 1050 Mhz for most websites - a joke. Or they cannot do some other simple thing.
 
Rusty0611 said:
OK mate you're right and everyone else who is posting here saying you're talking absolute nonsense are wrong.

Fine.
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Everyone who? I've seen some narrow minded remarks of no substance. And some illiterate remarks from people who just couldn't read even after being asked to. Predominantly Nvidia users. Such people often have no mind of their own.

I like Nvidia cards and AMD cards, the ones that deliver most. But I don't like fanboys
 
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XeNoN89 said:
I wonder if nvidia will now drop the price of the 680, and release a GK110 685 and own amd again?
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They have yet to "own" them in this generation yet. The GK110 IMO will be the 760 and below and they will have GK112 or something for 770/780 or they will save money and use the 680 chip as the 760 and below and use the GK110 as 770/780.

That will all depend on what AMD does though with their next gen.
 
XeNoN89 said:
I wonder if nvidia will now drop the price of the 680, and release a GK110 685 and own amd again?
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Nvidia never owned AMD in recent years. 7970 came out several months earlier. Costs less, has more memory and when both overclocked approximately matches 680 performance. So obviously AMD ownes Nvidia throughout.
 
chipachap said:
They have yet to "own" them in this generation yet. The GK110 IMO will be the 760 and below and they will have GK112 or something for 770/780 or they will save money and use the 680 chip as the 760 and below and use the GK110 as 770/780.

That will all depend on what AMD does though with their next gen.
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Either way, I want both companies to keep pushing each other, because at the moment I think graphics cards prices are quite frankly ridiculous. They need to start dropping prices to try and beat each other
 
XeNoN89 said:
I wonder if nvidia will now drop the price of the 680, and release a GK110 685 and own amd again?
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It "may" only happen if AMD price the 7970 GHz cost no more than the current price of 7970 beta. If AMD gonna price it higher, there's no way Nvidia will drop the price....and even if the GTX680 was equal performance with the 7970 GHz Edition, the GTX680 still has lower power consumption, lower temp and lower noise level.

XeNoN89 said:
Either way, I want both companies to keep pushing each other, because at the moment I think graphics cards prices are quite frankly ridiculous. They need to start dropping prices to try and beat each other
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The prices for this gen cards is indeed ridiculous...and it's all because the traditional pricing model was broken, and one of the company thought it is a good idea to stack their pricings on top of previous gen cards, rather than beat them at the same price.
 
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Marine-RX179 said:
The prices for this gen cards is indeed ridiculous...and it's all because the traditional pricing model was broken, and one of the company thought it is a good idea to stack their pricings on top of previous gen cards, rather than beat them at the same price.
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Mainstream segment cards don't cost much and run any game comfortably. While most people will get those, there are plenty of "enthusiasts" who will pay any price to get most powerful graphics. Because they want to prove that theirs is bigger. So the prices in premium segment are going up.

Imagine next gen consoles come out and games become very hardware hungry, more people will actually need powerful graphics. So the manufacturers will drop their prices.
 
MAK360 said:
The 7970 chip has lower temps (That’s a given from day one), lower idle and average power (Also a given) but the 680 chip has better full load power. :)
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AFAIK the 680 has lower temps and power consumption. The higher ASIC 7970's run a lot hotter than the lower ones.
 
Sorry about the hotlinking, at work and forgot.

TPU is notoriously inconsistent, so many different games and resolutions tested you know they can’t be doing it properly as there just isn’t enough time for one person to do all that.

Surely one of the factory overclocked 4 GB GTX670’s would “own” all of them overall at 5760x1080, and according to TPU the standard GTX670 already has better price/performance than the new 7970.

Cheaper than the 7970 Gigahertz Edition and with more memory, don’t think I’ve saw one of them benched yet though.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
The prices for this gen cards is indeed ridiculous...and it's all because the traditional pricing model was broken, and one of the company thought it is a good idea to stack their pricings on top of previous gen cards, rather than beat them at the same price.
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I'm in 100% agreement on the rip-off pricing by both companies, but it wasn't 'broken', it was choice to charge what they want.

It's up to said company to charge whatever they like regardless if it goes against their previous strategy or not.

Besides look what goes into each card, the 7970 clearly costs more to manufacture than a 680, who's making more profit per unit?

Add in the fact we don't have the slightest clue into what it costs to design and manufacture each series along with the small amount of the high end gpu's that actually get sold in comparison to the rest of their gpu's further down the line where the real bucks are made.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Go read some reviews before posting again. You are only embrassing yourself when you wrongly calling people wrong.
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links please since you claimed it first, will respond after Ive been out.


not having a go at you btw, its a misconception (allot of) people have. see yah.
 
Redemption80 said:
Sorry about the hotlinking, at work and forgot.

TPU is notoriously inconsistent, so many different games and resolutions tested you know they can’t be doing it properly as there just isn’t enough time for one person to do all that.

Surely one of the factory overclocked 4 GB GTX670’s would “own” all of them overall at 5760x1080, and according to TPU the standard GTX670 already has better price/performance than the new 7970.

Cheaper than the 7970 Gigahertz Edition and with more memory, don’t think I’ve saw one of them benched yet though.
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Looks unlikely to me. As things stand, how much quicker is Ghz Edition in 3 monitor configuration over 670 according to Techpowerup (in alphabetical order):

Alan Wake 40%
AvP 37%
Arkham City 18%
BF3 21%
Battleforge 43%
CoD4 minus 8.5% (that old quake 3 engine game)
Civilisation V Nvidia failed to run
Crisis 21%
Crisis2 15%
Dirt 3 Nvidia failed to run
Dragon Age2 10%
Hard Reset Nvidia failed to run
Metro 2033 21%
Stalker Pripyat 19%
Shogun2 2.5%
Skyrim 20%


As for TPU being inconsistent. Please show me one of their other reviews where you think they got it wrong?
 
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