Is this door to door job worth it?

Nate Silvers said:
I'm 24 and don't have a degree and desperate for a job but only if it's going to benefit me.
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Is this not a Govt Scheme to help you into work?.....there must be some form of recognised qualification and/or guarantees for them to pay you less than minimum wage at your age.

Besides any job will benefit you more than simply claiming JSA......it is easier to find work if you are in work for example.....

Try it and see, you have nothing to lose as you are currently unemployed and the worst that can happen is that you break even......no loss, no foul.

However if you have to pay £40 a week in board and lodging, plus council tax (average is £20 a week) plus the costs of going to work (a basic bus pass another £10-15) then your outgoings will soon exceed your income, so it would be counterproductive to your current financial position.

You would be better served visiting all the local supermarkets/shops/factories/building contractors/agencies and asking for work...put on a suit, ask to speak to HR/Manager in each store/business and show enthusiasm and commitment and you will potentially find a far better paying job, with better prospects in no time I suspect.....just don't be put off by initial failure or rejection...
 
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your just being used as cheap labour to deliver leaflets and make the very odd sale (think about who can afford it and where they will be during the day)
 
Castiel said:
Is this not a Govt Scheme to help you into work?.....there must be some form of recognised qualofication and/or guarantees for them to pay you less than minimum wage at your age.

Besides any job will benefit you more than simply claiming JSA......it is easier to find work if you are in work for example.....

Try it and see, you have nothing to lose as you are currently unemployed and the worst that can happen is that you break even......no loss, no foul.
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Acutally it's not no loss. If you dropout of an apprenticeship, I don't think goverment will fund you again for a proper one.
 
I was thinking he is too as he will get paid for finding me a job.
Yeah most people seem to have it already and I forgot to ask the hours.
The worst that can happen is slaving my butt for worse than being on JSA, it would suck in winter. I am so 50/50 on this. I will be finding out how much rent I will have to pay because I live at home right now and my mum got laid off. I don't want to stop giving her board as she wouldn't manage. My sister said it would be okay if I was flat sharing or my mum was working.

Thing is I have already been offered the job and if I say no then they could claim I'm not looking for work and kick me off Job Seekers Allowance. Unless it doesn't count because it's under minimum wage.
 
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Castiel said:
Any job will benefit you more than simply claiming JSA......it is easier to find work if you are in work for example.....

Try it and see, you have nothing to lose as you are currently unemployed and the worst that can happen is that you break even......no loss, no foul.
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because of our ridiculous benefit system he cant actually or can only just afford to live on the wage he would be given (£100) because he would have to come off benefits and pay rent/council tax/travel/uniform etc

if hes awful at selling and makes no commission he ends up owing money to the above. the only way out would be quitting the job but then JSA wont pay up

meanwhile joe bloggs who doesnt even want a job didnt even apply , has continued claiming , has no debt , has no worries.
 
job centre advisors dont get paid anything for finding you jobs or signing you off by the way. it does look good in their centres statistics though and most after seeing scumbag upon scumbag will be genuinely just happy that they found someone who wants a job a job. they just dont always realise whats best for some people

on second thoughts you really do sound like you want to work and if you think you can sell then you could give it a go. i just wouldnt sign off till a few days/week into it. you can then 'suss' it out by speaking to others who are there and if its as bad as some think then you pretend you/it never happened
 
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These jobs prey on young and desperate people, they offer you horrible terms of work, but promise you things will get better. You'll get screwed over. Don't touch it with a barge pole.
 
"andy" said:
because of our ridiculous benefit system he cant actually or can only just afford to live on the wage he would be given (£100) because he would have to come off benefits and pay rent/council tax/travel/uniform etc

if hes awful at selling and makes no commission he ends up owing money to the above. the only way out would be quitting the job but then JSA wont pay up

meanwhile joe bloggs who doesnt even want a job didnt even apply , has continued claiming , has no debt , has no worries.
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The problem is that it is not clear what this job actually is....if it is a govt scheme for people on JSA he will be protected from being worse off financially.

If it is a standard proper full time job then it is below minimum wage and therefore illegal, or if it is a training scheme he will still be able to claim certain benefits and he will remain better off......

More information on the exact nature of the job would help, for example what exactly is the apprentiseship,who is the provider and is it part of the Green Deal?
 
Yeah I would need to get commission but then it will just go because I won't get a rent rebate and this is a four bedroom house so the rents not cheap.

This isn't job centre it's a place called Intraining and they are payed to find people work, I saw checks for £2k on my advisor's desk he left out.

Yeah the more I hear others opinions the more it sounds like a bad idea. I really wanna work to save up but I might be better off waiting. The only thing stopping me is been stuck and not allowed back on JSA.

The job isn't a scheme for people on JSA it's an actual company called Icon. www.iconenergysolutions.co.uk It is part of the green deal I think.
 
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if you are a natural sales man you will make a fortune

if you are ok you will do all right

if you are pants at sales you will do ****...

did that help?
 
Nate Silvers said:
Yeah I would need to get commission but then it will just go because I won't get a rent rebate and this is a four bedroom house so the rents not cheap.

This isn't job centre it's a place called Intraining and they are payed to find people work, I saw checks for £2k on my advisor's desk he left out.

Yeah the more I hear others opinions the more it sounds like a bad idea. I really wanna work to save up but I might be better off waiting. The only thing stopping me is been stuck and not allowed back on JSA.

The job isn't a scheme for people on JSA it's an actual company called Icon. www.iconenergysolutions.co.uk It is part of the green deal I think.
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Icon is the employer...Intraining is the provider...The Government is the funding agency.

What exactly does this apprenticeship give you in terms of qualifications and how long is it?....they seem to be just calling it an apprenticeship to get away with paying you £2.60 an hour minimum wage....

Also at your age I do not think you are obliged to take the offer, it should not affect your JSA and to be fair, if it is just canvassing you could earn more doing that for a double glazing firm or similar.......

If I were you, I would canvass every local business in search of work, because you could earn more than £100 a week part time and it sound like this apprenticeship is actually nothing of the sort.
 
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Yes lmao that did help but is there such thing as a natural salesperson?

Yeah the guy at the interview said the government hates it but they have to pay him or they get fined. It's suppose to give me a GNVQ in sales I'm told. The interview was a bit fishy because he practically said I have the job twice during. He said "well you might be working with us" when I explained why I wanted to work for him. He said he could see me as being a manager and that if I prove myself I could have my own desk and move into other areas. It just seemed to easy to get the job. I asked him a question and he said "ok well I haven't told the others this but I have a good feeling about you" and told me about a free internet box they will be rolling out for free too which uses adverts to pay for itself.

Hmmm thanks for the advice Castiel you seem to know what you're talking about.
 
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http://www.ripoffreport.com/corrupt-companies/cobra-group/cobra-group-deceptive-liars-a-c85c6.htm

After reading that 12,000 article on door to door sales it's completely changed my mind. I'm now in a predicament where if I say to my training provider I don't want to do it they could kick me off jsa. Does anyone know if it's in the jobseekers agreement for me to take an apprentice job on £100?

I'm hoping I won't have to take it considering it's less than minimum wage at £2 an hour.
 
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The apprentice bit just seems a way to get labour for £2 an hour instead of 6 or whatever minimum is.... I'd steer clear, but maybe because i've seen the panorama on fake apprenticeship schemes.
 
They do actually give you free loft/cavity insulation, so if someone chaps your door, unless you've already got the good stuff, invite them it, get them a cuppa and take the freebie. :P
 
It's a **** job and the qualification is worthless.

If you can sell you will get a proper sales job.

DFS, Comet etc etc, are not sales jobs, they are retailing, it's entirely different.
 
GNVQ in sales I was told it would be worth it and employers value it. I was told if I didn't take this job the I'm wasting a huge opportunity.

I wish he never mentioned it to me grrr.
 
I've done door to door selling...avoid it like aids.

Anyone can get a job doing this, however very few people make it past the fist week. You probably wont get paid for the first week as that'll be your probation time. They get 40 hours labour, and unless you sell you'll walk away with nothing.
 
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