If you boiled rotten meat could you eat it

jsmoke · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:33

I have tried to find the answer but still not clear and no i won't be trying this, just curious.

From what i can see, you've got bacteria, viruses, spores and fungi, toxins and dangerous proteins(CJD) that you would be up against.

I think all above apart from toxins have a thermal death time, approx 121degC(autoclaves and all that stuff) i don't think toxins do(as i guess they don't have DNA or RNA), or do they what are toxins anyway.

Again as far as i know all DNA and RNA will "die" at above 121degC.

Anyway my original point if already debunked as boiling only goes up to 100degC.

So could you do this, say you were stuck out on a mountain of wherever you needed too.

LizardKing · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:35

The thing is, by the time you've cooked off all the bad stuff, would there be any nutritional value left?

Castiel · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:39

It depends on how rotten it is.......Also there are some toxins that ate not destroyed by boiling.

Efour · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:42

My local Curry house does it every night.

Supernaut91 · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:42

It will still store energy, therefore maybe no nutrition, but still calories non the less.

GravyMonster · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:43

You could certainly eat it. Whether you survived would be a matter for your gut and immune system.

bsoltan · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:43

You could eat it, sure. Might not feel very well after though!

Nexus · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:44

I would imagine our ancestors would eat red meat that was spoiled. We probably aren't quite so hardy to it these days. Given modern medicine though, you would probably just end up with a nasty case of food poisoning and frequent trips to the toilet.

edscdk · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:45

if the (cooked) meat contained enough bacteria to make you very ill if eaten hole would it make a difference if you decided to eat it when you were starving hungery and took tiny bits at a time and chewed the buggery out of it...???

my thinking being that more / all of the bacteria would be exposed to stomach acid......

mrk · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:46

Why would you want to do this with rotten meat is the question that needs to be asked.

Dead bodies piling up in your basement?

edscdk · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:46

Castiel said:
It depends on how rotten it is.......Also there are some toxins that ate not destroyed by boiling.

so its two fold the toxins + the bacteria get rid of one and the other may still get you?

GravyMonster · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:47

edscdk said:
would it make a difference if you decided to eat it when you were starving hungery and took tiny bits at a time and chewed the buggery out of it...???

Yes, the more you chew, the more you crush up and kill the bacteria, so you won't get ill. This is how cats and dogs can eat from bins - their teeth are sharper and can cut up smaller bacteria than ours.

jsmoke · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:48

mrk said:
Why would you want to do this with rotten meat is the question that needs to be asked.

Dead bodies piling up in your basement?

I just use acid on them.

edscdk · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:49

Spunkey said:
Yes, the more you chew, the more you crush up and kill the bacteria, so you won't get ill. This is how cats and dogs can eat from bins - their teeth are sharper and can cut up smaller bacteria than ours.

no i mean if you chew a small bit to buggery it will have more surface area to expose to the stomach acid - so less safe places for bacteria

Horse Pop · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:49

Wouldn't you still have toxic byproduct to worry about?

edscdk · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:50

Horse Pop said:
Wouldn't you still have toxic byproduct to worry about?

if I had the choice of being shot once or twice i'd got for the single shot all other things being equal... (unless I was trying to get killed)

Veco · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:56

Just because the boiling water is 100c doesn't mean the pan will only go upto that temperature, sure it will self regulate to an extent but saying that's the max temperature of water is ridiculous.

Efour · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:56

Spunkey said:
Yes, the more you chew, the more you crush up and kill the bacteria, so you won't get ill. This is how cats and dogs can eat from bins - their teeth are sharper and can cut up smaller bacteria than ours.

not sure if serious

or

My understanding of Animal biology is deeply flawed

Morgoth · 27 Jun 2012 at 12:58

Efour2 said:
not sure if serious

or

My understanding of Animal biology is deeply flawed

I was about to quote the same post.

Spunkey. Just no.

lurkio · 27 Jun 2012 at 13:00

Spunkey said:
Yes, the more you chew, the more you crush up and kill the bacteria, so you won't get ill. This is how cats and dogs can eat from bins - their teeth are sharper and can cut up smaller bacteria than ours.

Epic post , thanks for that made me smile