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Dre Beats? And here I was considering you a pretty informed sorta guy
In the audio-listening and DJ-performance worlds, Dre Beats are shorthand for 'moron'.
There is nothing wrong with the beat pros......they are perfectly acceptable for what I listen to as a rule and they are built like a tank so take the beating they get when I travel (which is a lot)
I have other phones include Beyers and Senns, and each have their good and bad points depending on what I am listening to, and neither have the robust build quality of the Beats...
I find people that automatically denigrate the pros are doing so because they think it is cool or are simply reacting to internet "beats hater" snobbery rather than they have actually listened to them.....
The Beat Pros price does not match its performance at all. Most people buy the Dre Beats simply because of the brand (after all, there is no convincing audio-quality reason for doing so). People want to be spotted with the 'iconic' look, sacrificing playback quality (in comparison to similarly priced alternatives). I don't understand it. Audio hardware as fashion accessory. They are useless for DJ'ing and far from "Pro" performance for sitting around listening to music. It's just a curious choice.
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Poor choice indeed
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I am not a DJ....I had gone through several pairs of headphones from Beyer and Senn (2 pairs of HD650s amongst them) in the same time I have owned the Pros.....and the sound quality is not that far away from the other phones I have owned/own....
like I said, they suit me, the cost was comparative to other brands specifically with regard to build quality and what they sound like to my ears for the kind of music I listen to....to me they do not sound all that different to my HD650s and given that I use them with an ipod most of the time the bottle neck is the ipod, not the headphones.
It is basically just another case of haters are gonna hate....hence the "OMG, you are moron look he has some Beats" response from your good self in a thread that has little to do with audio equipment.
http://www.headphoneinfo.com/conten...r-ear-Review/Sennheiser-HD-650-Comparison.htm
Different horse for a different course.....
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2 qualities I don't care about when buying headphones: "durable" and least of all "stylish".
In years of buying high-end monitoring ear/headphones for in- and out-side use, I've never broken them or complained about a lack of "durability". They're headphones! What are you going to do with them, climb Everest using the cable as support? Wrestle a bear? And least of all do I care how 'stylish' some earphones are (all Dre Beats shout out is chav/will.i.am fan tbh)
Anyway it was a comment in jest. I still maintain that they are not a good audio solution for the price and comparative benefits. And of course I harbour some ill will towards a brand that has taken over the headphone market on fashion and aesthetics over performance. Generally not a good thing.
In years of buying high-end monitoring ear/headphones for in- and out-side use, I've never broken them or complained about a lack of "durability". They're headphones! What are you going to do with them, climb Everest using the cable as support? Wrestle a bear? And least of all do I care how 'stylish' some earphones are (all Dre Beats shout out is chav/will.i.am fan tbh)
Anyway it was a comment in jest. I still maintain that they are not a good audio solution for the price and comparative benefits. And of course I harbour some ill will towards a brand that has taken over the headphone market on fashion and aesthetics over performance. Generally not a good thing.
Sure...your reaction however implies otherwise..I am now a chav or somehow exclusively a fan of Will-I-Am and also a moron......is someone's choice of headphones really the subject of name calling and insults....really????? Who is acting like a moron here?????
I bought them because they serve the purpose for which I need better than the several equally expensive pairs of phones I bought before which have all been damaged either in transit or in use.....the sound quality to my untrained ear is comparable (in fact for hip hop it is better) and you seriously harbour ill will against an inanimate object?????
"taken over the headphone market"........funny I seem to be able to buy all kinds of brands still.........
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Jealous hater? My current headphones are far superior in every way and cost a lot more. I have nothing to be 'jealous' of. I don't covet your trendy Dre Beats earphones with their terrible over-emphasized low-end. They're just not good earphones for the price. They position themselves at a place higher than warranted in the market because of pure fashion, style and aesthetics. They are 'desirable', but not for the same qualities that competing brands are 'desirable' (i.e. actually being good at outputting audio).
Anyway yes, you can keep telling yourself everyone is totally jealous of your white and ostentatious Dre Beats headphones. The rest of the audio enthusiast and DJ world will keep looking at people parading around with Dre Beats headphones as a strange fad, much like most other fashion accessories.
Anyway yes, you can keep telling yourself everyone is totally jealous of your white and ostentatious Dre Beats headphones. The rest of the audio enthusiast and DJ world will keep looking at people parading around with Dre Beats headphones as a strange fad, much like most other fashion accessories.
I personally do not care what headphones you covet or not.....the fact is that YOU decided that because I decided to buy a particular brand of headphones that meant I was fair game to be called a moron, a chav and any number of other petty childish insults.....
You might want to look at how you come across when you do this, because it sounds like you are about 13 and not yet out of the playground and no amount of 'my phones are better than your phones' will really alter that perception.
I never called you any of those things, only spoke about the connotations of that brand. All I said about yourself (again, in complete jest) was that I thought you would have researched your audio options more. If you really need something where the main benefit is durability, then good luck to you on your survival missions into the wild avec A Tribe Called Quest.
You certainly did call me those things, at minimum by implication. And I didn't have to research my choice because I bought them for a specific purpose, tried a range of pairs over a period of time and settled on these......and I own several other sets of phones for other purposes......I explained my reasons for buying them and they serve me well, having lasted significantly longer than others I have owned and they do not sound significantly worse than those other brands and cost in the same ballpark, in fact I prefer them sonically as they have deeper bass and I like a tigher fit headphone when out running etc (not being able to wear in-ears). They get battered about quite a bit as I use them for travel and various other outdoors stuff....
Clearly you have some sort of inferiority complex otherwise you would not have jumped on something as immaterial as a persons choice of headphones with which to assert your arguably superior authority.
If it was my 13 year son having this conversation then I might understand it...but a grown adult...really????
"Hey look my phones are better than yours".....
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In a nutshell though, you have purchased a product with a very strong stigma/stereotype attached to them. In doing so, you are now naturally associated with that stereotype simply because social norms dictate so. Of course you are not a chav.
a stigma that belongs in the playground and is largely nonsense. and the point being that people that promulgate that stereotype in order to make themselves feel superior are the ones with the issue, not the person who buys a certain brand of headphones. Are you paying a premium for their aesthetics?...probably, but then people buy all kinds of equipment for a range of reasons, from Televisions to Cars to Clothing to Houses.........I bought them for the reasons I set out, I like the look of them, I like the tight fit, I like the bassy sound, I like the build quality and they were not that expensive......does that make me a moron, or is it the person who sees ownership of a particular brand as a reason for ridicule the moron?
It is all rather childish if you ask me and akin to the "Apple is better than Android" nonsense.
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I just think you could get a lot better for the money, that's all. This is a tech forum bringing together people with an interest in technology and gadgets, no? Always painful to see someone stumping up a hyper-inflated price because of a brand. If someone was buying a Ralph Lauren graphics card in the Visual forum I'm sure the GPU nuts would tut-tut as well.
I couldn't get what I wanted for the money.....I went through several sets of "not cheap" headphones, one set broke in my overnight case, another kept slipping off my head and another had the plastic backs cracked when they knocked the side of an airplane seat......so far the beats have been through all kinds of rough and tumble and are still in perfect condition.
The sound quality of the Pros is nowhere near as poor as people make out...they are not the Studios or the Solos. They are on a par with my Senns, the Senns have better clarity, the beats have better bass and a warmer sound, the Senns give a slightly better overall mid response, but the separation on the Beats is slightly better.....They are not the massively below par sound that people like to make them out to be.....
http://www.avguide.com/review/beats-pro-headphones-dr-dre-monster-playback-39
All in all they are just fine for what I use them for, and yes there are better phones (and worse) out there, but for what I wanted and needed these fit the bill and there was no real need to act the way you did.
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Fair enough. Anyway as you have clearly demonstrated an awareness of, posting a picture with Dre Beats in it and expecting them to receive no attention is a bit like entering a forum debate and expecting to find no Nazi references.
To me they are pair of nice sounding, well built headphones, nothing more.