A lot from column B, not as much as I'd have liked from column A
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Agreed, won't happen though as you say.
I doubt that, his quality has been there for all to see pretty much since he arrived. A lesser player maybe, but that shows loyalty is only given to players good enough to warrant it. Don't think Franny Jeffers will see Arsenal as a loyal club
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If you were RVP and seeing Podolski and Giroud sign for Arsenal, wouldn't you think its clear its time to move on? Wenger wasn't exactly suttle with his new signings. How would they fit into the squad with RVP still there.
Would be interesting to see RVP play for Real Madrid and actually win something and maybe see Benzema or Higuin play in England.
Would be interesting to see RVP play for Real Madrid and actually win something and maybe see Benzema or Higuin play in England.
Loyalty isn't something that bothers me greatly when it comes to players wanting to stay or leave a football club.
Take Nasri for example, gets a lot of flak from Arsenal fans, personally I don't hold any grudge against him. He put in a great performance against Liverpool last season even though he'd said he wanted to leave, that's what I call loyalty, putting a shift in on the pitch while you are at the club, not whether you have desires to move elsewhere. On the flipside what Anelka did was disgraceful, saying he wasn't coming in to training etc to force a move to Real Madrid.
Players come and go, I don't jizz my pants when they say how much they "love" the club and neither do I want to spit in the face of those who want to leave. I don't even really care what their reasons are, whether it is to win trophies or get a bigger wage packet, that is their perogative. All RvP has said is he won't sign another contract, perfectly within his rights not to sign.
Take Nasri for example, gets a lot of flak from Arsenal fans, personally I don't hold any grudge against him. He put in a great performance against Liverpool last season even though he'd said he wanted to leave, that's what I call loyalty, putting a shift in on the pitch while you are at the club, not whether you have desires to move elsewhere. On the flipside what Anelka did was disgraceful, saying he wasn't coming in to training etc to force a move to Real Madrid.
Players come and go, I don't jizz my pants when they say how much they "love" the club and neither do I want to spit in the face of those who want to leave. I don't even really care what their reasons are, whether it is to win trophies or get a bigger wage packet, that is their perogative. All RvP has said is he won't sign another contract, perfectly within his rights not to sign.
Dunno about everyone else but that is almost word for word what Rooney came out with a couple seasons back?
lolthoughtso, do they have the same agent or something?
lolthoughtso, do they have the same agent or something?
In which case all Arsenal have to do is offer him a shedload of money and all will be well with the world again, yes?
That's a pretty easy question without a putting a price on his head.
Van Persie's an excellent player but I can't see many clubs being interested if the price is much more than £20m.
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I think they may as well keep him. He may actually want to stay but just not want to commit himself for the rest of his career.
He will be 29 in August. by the start of the 2013-2014 season, he will be 30. If he goes on a free, so be it. He will be in decline anyway.
Next season could be a big season with the new signings and Wilshere back. They might as well take the risk imo. I think he is professional enough to give his all still, and he may even relish one last season to try and win something as captain.
He will be 29 in August. by the start of the 2013-2014 season, he will be 30. If he goes on a free, so be it. He will be in decline anyway.
Next season could be a big season with the new signings and Wilshere back. They might as well take the risk imo. I think he is professional enough to give his all still, and he may even relish one last season to try and win something as captain.
Tbf that's not a bad shout - if RvP's goals mean them getting into the CL (again) then that by far pays for any 'loss' of his sale value, IIRC the CL is worth about 50 million or thereabouts to a team?
When you think that Drogba has basically called it a day at 34, then whatever contract he signs is likely going to be his last so I can understand him wanting to retire with a few winners medals.
Also is it just me or does it seem an age ago that we were talking about where Hazard was going to end up A month is a long time in transfer gossip
When you think that Drogba has basically called it a day at 34, then whatever contract he signs is likely going to be his last so I can understand him wanting to retire with a few winners medals.
Also is it just me or does it seem an age ago that we were talking about where Hazard was going to end up
A month is a long time in transfer gossip
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Be mental to keep him, have to rebuild next year + 0, or have to rebuild this year + £20m, it's a no contest. And if he is the difference between Arsenal finishing 4th or 5th, then they have far bigger problems to worry about and could do with the money even more so. You probably won't have a player score as many goals on his own next season, I bet you make the difference up throughout the team though.
Fair point about if he gets them in the CL then maybe worth taking a hit on the transfer fee but the way I see it:
1) He won't have as good a season again
2) His mind could be elsewhere - come January he can sign a precontract agreement with other clubs so if Arsenal are say languishing just outside the top 4 he could be more interested in being wined and dined by Europe's finest than giving his all for his current team
3) Could cause dressing room unrest
4) Could cause crowd unrest i.e. say he has an offday, how long before the boo-boys come out questioning his commitment?
I suppose one other argument in favour of keeping hold of him is he earns less than £100k/week and to buy a player of equal or better quality we'd need to pay more than that. So CL qualification and savings on wages could come in handy. Also maybe an outside chance that should by some freak occurrence Arsenal win the league/CL this season, maybe he'd change his mind and decide to stay if he thought we'd become competitive.
My advice would be, don't decide to sell him and then see how much we can get, but instead set a minimum price we'd accept (say £20m) and see if anyone is prepared to pay that (if not, then just make use of him for a year).
1) He won't have as good a season again
2) His mind could be elsewhere - come January he can sign a precontract agreement with other clubs so if Arsenal are say languishing just outside the top 4 he could be more interested in being wined and dined by Europe's finest than giving his all for his current team
3) Could cause dressing room unrest
4) Could cause crowd unrest i.e. say he has an offday, how long before the boo-boys come out questioning his commitment?
I suppose one other argument in favour of keeping hold of him is he earns less than £100k/week and to buy a player of equal or better quality we'd need to pay more than that. So CL qualification and savings on wages could come in handy. Also maybe an outside chance that should by some freak occurrence Arsenal win the league/CL this season, maybe he'd change his mind and decide to stay if he thought we'd become competitive.
My advice would be, don't decide to sell him and then see how much we can get, but instead set a minimum price we'd accept (say £20m) and see if anyone is prepared to pay that (if not, then just make use of him for a year).
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