Slimming Jab, am i the only person who hopes this DOESNT work?

It's not like there isn't already drugs that can do this already. Many people use Ephedrine pills, and I have seen people lose weight ridiculously fast using these.
 
For the 1% with genuinely slower metabolisms this is good.

The other 99% should learn to eat well. (Unless you want their kids to pick up their bad eating habits and continue to the pill-cure cycle.)
 
TruffleShuffle said:
You raise interesting points here. You are correct, if these other options existed, i'm sure a lot of people would take them, including myself. Just look at caffeine or alcohol. Here are 2 drugs which can temporarily have a massive effect on your body/brain, and despite rather large side-effects, the vast majority of people,including myself will take some on a daily or weekly basis.

However, I DO feel that those people who have struggled, and managed to increase their IQ/muscle or stopped smoking, will come out the other side a better person for it, and will be more likely to continue improving over the long-term and even more likely to help others to achieve the same results.

Meanwhile the person who has taken the injections will most likely fall back into old habits, lose their gains they have made (and/or start smoking again). and will find themselves back where they started, or worse, after 12/24 months.
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I've not smoked for 2 years now, well i think i had a cheeky one or two. I quit without anything, just went cold turkey. I personally dont think that because someone used a 3rd party way of quitting that they will have a higher chance of taking it up again. Its too easy to make sweeping statements im sure there's a medical study somewhere... that will prove your point tho.:p
 
elmarko1234 said:
Tbh,

It sounds like it would only work on people with slow metabolisms - so anybody who it worked on would be an ideal candidate, it's unreasonable to expect a certain portion of the population to live on a diet (due to having a slower metabolism than the rest of the population).

I do feel the elephant in the room is being ignored, that we should have laws which ensure food companies make food which is fit for human consumption, without filling everything with saturated fats, sugar & salt.

No single shop purchased meal should multiple times your RDA of salt, it's irresponsible.
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I broadly agree, but I don't know if I'd go all the way down that route. However I do think food labelling isn't up to scratch.

There are certain things though that we can do without - certain fats for example aren't required other than to reduce costs by increasing shelf life, meanwhile they're doing a great deal of harm.

Education would help too - people don't really understand food and how it acts on the body.... and food companies constantly try to mislead people. All those 'healthy' yoghurts with cultures in them? They add sugar and laxatives and people think it's healthy food.
 
The Halk said:
I wish everybody had it. These forums are very well read, and if someone is too lazy to put a suitable amount of effort into a post then they should be criticised for it.
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Wow. I'll have to remember to not bother helping you in future should a time arise! Nice attitude you have.
 
The Halk said:
I broadly agree, but I don't know if I'd go all the way down that route. However I do think food labelling isn't up to scratch.

There are certain things though that we can do without - certain fats for example aren't required other than to reduce costs by increasing shelf life, meanwhile they're doing a great deal of harm.

Education would help too - people don't really understand food and how it acts on the body.... and food companies constantly try to mislead people. All those 'healthy' yoghurts with cultures in them? They add sugar and laxatives and people think it's healthy food.
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That's just down to narrow mindedness though. If you want to know what you are eating, you need to put in the effort. I know for a fact pretty much all of my food is as clean as I can get it.

Yet foods like ready meals etc, it's upto to people if they wish to eat them at the end of the day.
 
Delvis said:
That's just down to narrow mindedness though. If you want to know what you are eating, you need to put in the effort. I know for a fact pretty much all of my food is as clean as I can get it.

Yet foods like ready meals etc, it's upto to people if they wish to eat them at the end of the day.
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It's actually very easy to learn how to eat clean, cut most of your carbs, increase your protein intake and do some exercise. The problem is people just can't be bothered either because they don't care how they look or claim they don't have the time or money to prepare healthier meals.
 
Delvis said:
That's just down to narrow mindedness though. If you want to know what you are eating, you need to put in the effort. I know for a fact pretty much all of my food is as clean as I can get it.

Yet foods like ready meals etc, it's upto to people if they wish to eat them at the end of the day.
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You could say the same though about lots of things - we wouldn't need dentists if we would all spend 30 minutes a day cleaning our teeth and completely avoid sugars. We wouldn't need mountain rescue if we ignored mountains...

You're spot on with 'clean' food though. There's numerous benefits with that.

The reality is that people won't spend the time cooking very healthily, people will eat too much. I think cheeseburgers taste great, I love nachos. Other people like cheesecake or chocolate.
 
People that have never had weight issues will always think that fat people shouldn't have a easy option. Which is stupid as people who have always been slim with high metabolism have always had the easy route anyway lol.

I have been on both sides of the fence being slim/fat back to slim and fat again. Self control only affects some cases not all and really and if there was a drug to stop people drinking or smoking I cant see the harm.

Improving human life for all is something as a race we should all try to achieve. There will always be people that abuse things its the way of the world but to tar everyone with the same brush and deny it to all is stupid.

I'll be honest If there was something that could measure my metabolism and bring it in line with a natural slim person I would do it tomorrow. I hate going to the gym and endlessly watching what i eat while friends of my mine eat like horses and don't work out and are slim :D

Jealously works both ways and in my mind for a person who is slim and not having weight issues to be upset of a advancement in science to help people basically bring people all to the same level (if it works of course) seems crazy.
 
Spenty said:
It's actually very easy to learn how to eat clean, cut most of your carbs, increase your protein intake and do some exercise. The problem is people just can't be bothered either because they don't care how they look or claim they don't have the time or money to prepare healthier meals.
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Cut out Carbs?

I eat loads of carbs. Just not naff carbs :p
 
Morba said:
Wow. I'll have to remember to not bother helping you in future should a time arise! Nice attitude you have.
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Well that's entirely up to you, I don't really know much about you so I don't know what I'm missing - perhaps I've just lost the help on something I really needed in the future which is unfortunate.

However I do stand by what I say about spelling, punctuation and grammar. If someone won't format their posts with a little effort then I find it incredibly rude. What we write on these forums we can reasonably expect to be read dozens of times, if someone is so self centred they think that causing dozens of people to spend extra effort translating their diatribe is time saved for them, then I don't want to read their posts.

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Skillmister said:
And i eat loads of naff carbs ;)


It's not about eating "clean" it's about controlling how much you eat.
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The two do go together though, if you eat lots of naff carbs then you'll find it more difficult to control what you eat - or conversely if you eat healthily then you'll not end up eating the naff carbs.
 
Delvis said:
That's just down to narrow mindedness though. If you want to know what you are eating, you need to put in the effort. I know for a fact pretty much all of my food is as clean as I can get it.

Yet foods like ready meals etc, it's upto to people if they wish to eat them at the end of the day.
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While I agree, eating clean costs more.

It also takes longer & involves significantly more effort & requires self-control.

If everybody has these traits we wouldn't need medical solutions, but sadly they don't.

People with limited time, large family's & living in poverty won't be able to do the same level of clean eating as you do - this can't be ignored.

Then you have to admit, that the marketing/media has sold a lie, that low fat = good, which in most cases just means "high sugar", sugar is highly addictive & is hidden in food for this very reason.

This is done for pretty obvious reasons, marketing is far more intelligent than people give it credit, everything from the music, the colour of the walls (in fast-food restaurants), the sugar/salt content of products is done to trigger certain responses to increase how much you spend/consume.
 
Having a high metabolism isn't exactly great either btw. If for example you want to bulk up in the gym it can be very difficult if you have a very fast metabolism. It can also affect your energy and leave you feeling tired if you don't eat often.
 
The Halk said:
Well that's entirely up to you, I don't really know much about you so I don't know what I'm missing - perhaps I've just lost the help on something I really needed in the future which is unfortunate.

However I do stand by what I say about spelling, punctuation and grammar. If someone won't format their posts with a little effort then I find it incredibly rude. What we write on these forums we can reasonably expect to be read dozens of times, if someone is so self centred they think that causing dozens of people to spend extra effort translating their diatribe is time saved for them, then I don't want to read their posts.
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I am sure that you are the only person who dismissed his post without even trying to read it. You are coming across as a complete **** tbh, well done :)
 
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