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Do a fourth day with core, mobility, cleans, DB push press, etc.

Honestly, if you try 3 days of HST you won't want a 4th :D

Your set up would work though... I guess try it and see how you go, but 3 days is certainly more than enough with HST.

I would happily do 3 days and a 4th of something else the only problem is timing I can't do weekends as its family time and I think standard HST 2 days in a row would destroy me lol

I have a few weeks yet before the end of my cut so gonna play about with the 4 day split while looking at other HST options and if I don't like the 4 day split and can't find anything else HST wise to deal with 4 days I will try this out
 
I hate resetting as I like to get a good grip of the bar and hold onto it with the chalk =P I could stop for a second inbetween reps tho?

EDIT: I think I need to work on my head positioning more also.
 
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That's not HST. If you change the fundamental core of something, then it becomes something else.

It's like saying you're going to be a window licker but you're not going to lick anything :p

Yes it is different but it would follow the same rep, set, weight, cycle, and structure of HST but work for my time frame of 4 days per week, on/on/off/on/on/off/off.

The principles of HST are still the same just working in to 4 days instead of 3, of you want me to rename it to Syla5 Specific Training then cool, do you have any thoughts on this?
 
Yes it is different but it would follow the same rep, set, weight, cycle, and structure of HST but work for my time frame of 4 days per week, on/on/off/on/on/off/off.

The principles of HST are still the same just working in to 4 days instead of 3, of you want me to rename it to Syla5 Specific Training then cool, do you have any thoughts on this?
Yes, it won't work. Not with the routines you have suggested.

I'm only guessing here but I'm thinking you haven't used HST before? I have and I've got a journal of it spanning a few years. Trust me this routine is brutal and will test the recovery powers of any level lifter. It's so easy to get the volume all wrong.... and I'm telling you with absolute certainty you've got the volume all wrong.

The Push/Pull will murder you trying to Squat and Deadlift 4x times a week. The other routine is so far from HST I don't know what it is. The idea is to hit every muscle group every 48 hours, so what's your thinking behind that routine?
 
I hate resetting as I like to get a good grip of the bar and hold onto it with the chalk =P I could stop for a second inbetween reps tho?

EDIT: I think I need to work on my head positioning more also.

You don't need to let go of the bar. What I mean by resetting is putting the bar back on the floor, getting tight and lifting again.
 
Yes, it won't work. Not with the routines you have suggested.

I'm only guessing here but I'm thinking you haven't used HST before? I have and I've got a journal of it spanning a few years. Trust me this routine is brutal and will test the recovery powers of any level lifter. It's so easy to get the volume all wrong.... and I'm telling you with absolute certainty you've got the volume all wrong.

The Push/Pull will murder you trying to Squat and Deadlift 4x times a week. The other routine is so far from HST I don't know what it is. The idea is to hit every muscle group every 48 hours, so what's your thinking behind that routine?

That bins off that then :), quite simply happy to accept people's experiences, and there wasn't much experience to support the push/pull I had found.

From your experience I would assume that 2 days I'm a row and HST just won't work?
 
That bins off that then :), quite simply happy to accept people's experiences, and there wasn't much experience to support the push/pull I had found.

From your experience I would assume that 2 days I'm a row and HST just won't work?
It's not that you couldn't get a routine like that to work with the correct volume and diet but it wouldn't be HST anymore than it would be a 5x5.

HST is a fantastic routine, it works. It can't be messed and butchered with and still expect the same results. If you're going to do it then follow the basics to the letter. It's a steep learning curve and you'll learn a lot from the first cycle. 2nd cycle you will make some of the best gains of your life, providing you got the volume and diet right of course :)
 
Damn it to many people saying HST is awesome but I don't want to drop to 3 days a week and cant go at weekends so it's only gonna work if I change to 3 days a week again :(
 
What's wrong with 3 days? Just do cardio and mobility on the 4th?

HST is on off on off on off off, I currently go on on off on on off off, and I can't do the gym at weekends so I would lose a day unless I went 3 days in a row and that would just destroy recovery :(
 
bit of advice please...

the tricep dip bars at the gym aren't parallel to each other, they are slightly Y shaped..

would there be any difference between performing dips into the Y or away from the Y... I think that makes sense...

cheeeers
 
At a guess, the further in the Y works the triceps more so and the further out works the chest more so.

I usually go further out so can't be sure but I reckon that's how it works.
 
Not facing in, I mean like closer into the Y (probably closer to the wall that it is next to) or further out towards the edge of the Y.

The way I think about it is like when you do pressups, with your arms closer in it feels like your tris get worked more and with you arms further out the chest gets worked more.

I'm sure someone will confirm for you though. I'm just trying to think it through.
 
Sig do they still have the dip bars that are similar to what Adam is talking about in your place? I used to do dips on those into the y rather than out of it
 
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