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From what I have read, Powell was played as an attacking midfielder off the striker because that's where Crewe could use him best, the chairman of Crewe, SAF and the player himself have said that CM is where he is most suited and would like to play though.
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Ah OK my bad. :o
Wherever he plays he's certainly a very talented player who can score some very good goals, albeit in league 2. Was hoping that Saints would sign him but obviously stood no chance once Man Utd showed interest.
 
Reports doing the rounds tonight that we've agreed a fee of around £11m with Roma for Borini. Tony Barrett in the Times is also saying that Bellamy could be on the way out with the club happy for him to leave just to get his £80k per week off the wage bill. He's also reporting that Rodgers is keen for Maxi to stay despite him looking to move back to Argentina.

I've not seen enough of Borini to form much of an opinion of him; he's been compared to Inzaghi but there's been talk about him coming in as an option on the right hand side of a front 3. Wouldn't mind keeping Bellamy but it's a surprise to read that he's on quite so much money and I can understand the club being happy for him to leave. I'd love Maxi to stay; along the lines of Bellamy's possible departure, I thought the club were looking to get him off the wage bill but I guess unlike Bellamy, Maxi's capable of playing regular football still and is a great fit for Rodgers style of play.

There's also talk of a Dempsey + cash deal for Carroll in the Guardian. I've never been a big fan of Dempsey but I can see our owners being keen on the deal and tbf to him, he's got his fair share of goals over the last couple of years.
 
Borini never made the grade at chelsea. Scored well in the reserves though. Haven't seen him play in Italy, maybe he's improved, but he's not in the same league as £35mil strikers. :p
 
Adding to the Carroll rumour, there's rumours of Dempsey sold to Liverpool and us getting Carroll in on loan or Dempsey + rumoured £9m to sign Carroll.

Strike force of Carroll/Petric/Rodallega would do lovely!
 
BaZ87 said:
I've not seen enough of Borini to form much of an opinion of him; he's been compared to Inzaghi but there's been talk about him coming in as an option on the right hand side of a front 3. Wouldn't mind keeping Bellamy but it's a surprise to read that he's on quite so much money and I can understand the club being happy for him to leave. I'd love Maxi to stay; along the lines of Bellamy's possible departure, I thought the club were looking to get him off the wage bill but I guess unlike Bellamy, Maxi's capable of playing regular football still and is a great fit for Rodgers style of play.
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Is that honestly a joke? Maxi's last three seasons were 20, 35, 17 appearances, Bellamy in the same time had 33, 35, 40. In not one of those seasons has Maxi out scored Bellamy, one was close the other two weren't remotely close, likewise Bellamy has from what I can tell massively massively out assisted him.

When I see Maxi play for Liverpool I see a guy who offers nothing defensively, almost nothing creatively and a few tap ins a season. Very rarely does he score a great goal, the vast majority of his goals being against **** teams, 2 against Chelsea was his useful contribution but he does SO little for the team overall. In his "prolific" season of 10 whole goals, that included two hatricks, one where Hangeland was going for a move to Liverpool and gifted you guys a pathetically easy win, the other against Brum. Those 6 goals followed a 4 month gap to his previous goals against West Ham, Villa and Bolton. He's a small time player, who every now and then gets a tap in against a **** team or a team playing particularly badly.

In contrast Bellamy was often the only LIverpool player playing at all well, he was probably your best overall player for the season, often the only real threat and the driving force and determination so few others showed for Liverpool.

Considering the returns, Bellamy is providing massively massively better value for money than Maxi and fitting into Rodgers style, Bellamy is an excellent player on the ball, great link up play at basically every club he's played at, excellent work rate, goal threat.

For the record Bellamy got 3 assists in those 2 Chelsea games where Maxi finally got a big game goal. Bellamy's record in his past 3-4 prem seasons is fantastic, consistently performs against the top teams, can turn a game around on his own.

Liverpool would be completely mental to get rid of Bellamy and keep Maxi, Bellamy is a better creator, better assist maker, better finisher, better worker, better defensively, better on the ball, faster, and plays more often, scores more, scores in bigger games.
 
No it wasn't a joke. Bellamy is not physically capable of playing week in week out. Maxi is. The fact that he's not been picked to play doesn't change the fact that he was available, which Bellamy is quite often not.

As I said, I wouldn't mind keeping Bellamy but if he really is earning £80k per week, that's a lot of money for a player that's not available every week.

edit: and on your Bellamy/Maxi comparison, what matters the most is how they fit into Rodgers plans. Maxi, as Rodgers says himself, 120% fits into how he wants to play. Bellamy less so.
 
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No it wasn't a joke. Bellamy is not physically capable of playing week in week out. Maxi is. The fact that he's not been picked to play doesn't change the fact that he was available, which Bellamy is quite often not.

As I said, I wouldn't mind keeping Bellamy but if he really is earning £80k per week, that's a lot of money for a player that's not available every week.

edit: and on your Bellamy/Maxi comparison, what matters the most is how they fit into Rodgers plans. Maxi, as Rodgers says himself, 120% fits into how he wants to play. Bellamy less so.
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Again I find it funny because for 3 years with a knee problem, he's managed to play week after week for long spells, in fact beyond you bringing up Bellamy every week with "I don't think he'll play as he can't play every week" only to find him start yet another game in a row, I've seen entirely no evidence what so ever that he can't play a lot of games in a row. Meaning if you play Utd, City, Arsenal, Spurs in a row, he's proven himself capable of playing 4 games in a row, if those games came up with a 3 week gap in between, there is no problem, in either situation he's proven himself vastly vastly superior to Maxi in every single aspect of his game and I'd play him ahead of Maxi every single time.


I've never once in the past decade seen Bellamy give less than 100% on the pitch, I can't remember ever seeing Maxi try hard or play well.

Rodgers can say what he wants, managers don't always tell the truth about players, rarely will they bad mouth players openly if they are to be a part of their squad(outside of AVB I've never seen a manager come in and do it straight away, look how that worked out).
In what way could Maxi suit a team in a way that Bellamy can't exactly, in what way does he play that Bellamy isn't capable of? None is the answer, bellamy is better at every single last aspect of the game than Maxi as well as being vastly more effective. Again here's a hint, you don't get good offers or any offers if the manager comes out and says "he doesn't fit into our plans, he's rubbish, we won't play him". Aside from the idea that he fits into his plans, can you explain what it is about the way he plays that will suit Rodgers but Bellamy wouldn't?

For the sake of pointing it out, it's not remotely surprising Bellamy is on 80k a week, infact after being at Newcastle, West Ham and City its surprising its that LOW, and from everything you can find it would seem Maxi is on the same at the least but probably higher, for a guy who plays less, is less good, scores less and assists less, who is utterly anonymous in most games and only good in 3-4 games a season when the rest of the team plays well.

If you want LIverpool to improve, players who can only chip in a goal when the team is so utterly dominating the other side are, basically, useless. Malouda scored 15 in one season, where 13 of them made no difference to the result in games where they won by a 3 to 6 goal margin, in tight games he was non existant. Bellamy is the kind of player who will win you games, Maxi is the kind of player who won't ever make the slightest bit of difference.
 
drunkenmaster said:
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It’s a well known fact that Bellamy has problems with his knees that limit how many minutes he is able to get in a week, to suggest otherwise is total nonsense.

You're also forgetting that Maxi is a midfielder and Bellamy is a striker for a start. Bellamy scored 6 from 24 appearances, and Maxi racked up 4 from 11, I don’t know the minutes on the pitch for the relevant appearance totals for each as I’m at work with limited internet but I would be surprised if those 24 appearances didn’t equate to at least double the minutes compared to Maxi.

Maxi’s style would fit in what Brendan wants to do very well, as opposed to what Bellamy brings to the table. Maxi is an intelligent footballer, able to create space with his movement and arriving late into the box who was criminally under used by Kenny. Whilst they are both on high wages (one of the problems with free signings), most Liverpool fans would be happier with Maxi staying I believe

Regardless they could both well leave anyway, Bellamy to Cardiff and Maxi to Newells Old Boys
 
It's been in the papers up here the last week or so that QPR could be signing Ki from Celtic for £7m. Good bit of business on our end to get £7m for a squad player if it's true.
 
Really not keen on a deal that would ship Andy out to Fulham, Dempsey I like the sound of in our squad, but this whole talk of getting rid of Andy is insane.
 
£6m fee agreed for Adebooboo by Spurs. Bargain fee, but wonder how the will sort out his wages.
 
Newbie007 said:
It’s a well known fact that Bellamy has problems with his knees that limit how many minutes he is able to get in a week, to suggest otherwise is total nonsense.
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Bellamy is one of DM's chosen ones. Any sort of negativity towards him would send DM off onto a mad rant. To write 2 essays just from me just saying Bellamy can't play every game is impressive even by his standard though.
 
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