They won by goal Difference... Against a team with the most injury's in the whole league. So while they might not have as many big names as city there obviously just as strong as a team or city would have walked the league.
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They won by goal Difference... Against a team with the most injury's in the whole league. So while they might not have as many big names as city there obviously just as strong as a team or city would have walked the league.
this comes down to the ferguson mentality and belief, been there before thing. a combination of scholes coming back, silva and city going off the boil after christmas. city losing toure to ACN. city could have (probably should have) had the league tied up by christmas. flip that, united chased, constantly (strong argument for it being easier to chase than be chased, in any scenario) and should've wrapped it up themselves but bottled it against everton.
that was last season, bottom line is, city won, they showed their mentality and belief against qpr, a game isn't over until the final whistle. if mancini can iron out the problems and now the players know that they can win it, this could put them closer to united on a psychological and playing level, because they blow united out of the water player for player.
4 players - Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Ronaldo. Still think City would be stronger?
ha well, i would love to see that in all honesty.
the thing is, you've had the players in the past that could match city and not all that long ago. if you still had VDS, ronaldo, tevez, with scholes, neville and evra all at their peak and i think you'd then be classed as better player for player in most areas.
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Its not daft. City offer him the best chance of success so why would he go to Utd?
Your comment pretty pointless with no explaination as to why you think my post is "daft" Some might say stupid but no one wants to get into trouble
Ok I'm not party to the deal but pretty much everyone (I mean media wise) are saying the clause is there. Cashley bummed them for 35 so a 25 sell on clause would not be a great shock.
I agree Pool want a good deal. But there is a vast difference between wanting a good deal and selling an asset no one really wants and whose stock has almost reached as far down as the titanic.
I think there is a lot yet to see on this deal but I think if Pool expect more than £16mill they will be left with an expensive bench warmer next year. It will sting their pride but their best bet is to cut their losses and admit they were bummed on this one.
ManU fan (perhaps conveniently I don't know) forgetting the importance of the psychological aspect in this post. ManU have done really well despite not having the best squad recently because they know how to win.
Yes Citeh only just won the title but they could have won it by a mile if they had had the nous and killer instinct about them. Don't get me wrong they need some fine tuning but their same squad last year + confidence of winning a title and dealing with the pressure will bum a ManU team which hasn't improved.
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It's based on my opinion. Lets just see how the season pans out. If i was judging it on the histories of the clubs then yes I would choose Utd. But I am basing it on the current teams.
RPV would choose to go to City because he would think he is going to win trophies there. I also think Chelski have a better chance of trophies than Utd.
If most people had to put a bet on winning something this year, I would say 9 out of 10 would say City.
Dzeko is rumoured to be going, so maybe he would fit in nicely.
Personally I hope he goes abroad but I think a £250k+ pay cheque will be hard to turn down with a trophy or two.
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The pressure is now off City and the difference in class between the squads will tell this year, City should win the league quite easily
I really don't agree. We were killing teams at the start of the year until we lost Cleverley, Anderson and Vidic for the entire season. You are basing your view that City would have rinsed the league last year had they not lost Yaya for a few games and Silva hadn't gone off the boil after christmas.
So you're saying that City missing a couple of players for a few months made all the difference but United missing the centre of the team for the entire year wouldn't have changed anything.
I don't buy it at all that City bottled it due to the mental factor. They have a fantastic team, no one denies that and yet all these world class players were worried about losing the league and that was the reason they didn't clean up. So many teams have won their domestic league without an all star team filled with players who have won trophies and yet City were feeling so much pressure.
Everyone has forgotten about how United were playing at the start of the season but not how City played at times throughout the season. United will challenge any team in the league next year in every competition I am almost certain.
So you're saying that City missing a couple of players for a few months made all the difference but United missing the centre of the team for the entire year wouldn't have changed anything.
I don't buy it at all that City bottled it due to the mental factor. They have a fantastic team, no one denies that and yet all these world class players were worried about losing the league and that was the reason they didn't clean up. So many teams have won their domestic league without an all star team filled with players who have won trophies and yet City were feeling so much pressure.
Everyone has forgotten about how United were playing at the start of the season but not how City played at times throughout the season. United will challenge any team in the league next year in every competition I am almost certain.
I feel sorry for Andy Carroll. Signed for a huge fee while you're still young (and sold against your wishes AFAIK) and not really getting a decent run in the team. Finally you start to come good, although probably too late really but you get picked for the Euro Finals and Score a great header while there. You come back to pre-season training and, I'd imagine, the first words out of your new bosses mouth are something along the lines of 'you're going to be sold because i think you can't play 'my' style of football'. Poor guy.
I find this slightly strange really.
I'm reading that the Sao Paulo board are currently discussing what to do, and they're currently split 50/50 over whether they should take the money or not.
It seems (from a bit of research) that he's employed in a similar position to David Silva, on the right (or I suppose left) hand side of attacking midfield. So he's not really a winger.
Considering he plays in a position we don't even use, perhaps Fergie really does want to move to a different style/formation.
We'll see. At least it seems we do have money available.
From what I understand , the situation is complicated by the split ownership rights as well (20% owned by the Moura family themselves), and the fact that on Aug 1st, that percentage rises but the club dont want to lose out on what they get.
Did Yaya Toure actually retire internationally (there was some mention of it earlier in the year - or will he be going back to this season's ACoN as well?
Chelsea carried on winning for year after year didnt they........
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Logically, it seems like Berbatov will end up at AC Milan, especially as they'll now be looking for a striker to replace Ibrahimovic.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7908556/Berbatov-keen-on-Milan
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7908556/Berbatov-keen-on-Milan
Yes it was wildly reported 25% sell on clause. The local press said Newcastle could make over 40million in the long run out of the deal. Newcastle staff where very lose lips on the deal stating his wages and fee to try and tell the supporters they where doing the right thing in selling him.
Wake up this morning to the ssn story about Carroll having no future at the club.
Bad move you just give more power to Newcastle.
Newcastle are in no hurry to sign him and will not be paying anywhere near what Liverpool want. We spent 2 and a half years to sign pappis and got his transfer fee down from 17 to 9 million.
I expect a 13-14 million cash up front deal to be offered. No other club will pay that fee up front.
I think it will be a close one this season. I'm pretty excited by the arrival of Kagawa, he should cope with the physicallities of the Premier League and he will bring something new to the team. I think we will still see one more addition to the team as well.
Our problem last year was the midfield ran out of legs and ideas and it pretty much picked itself. Our central midfield of Carrick, Powell, Cleverly, Scholes, Pettruci (on the fringe), Anderson looks a hell of lot stronger than it did last year if we can keep clear of injuries.
Then when you add Kagawa and possibly one more to play in the advanced positions behind the front one or two, something we sorely missed last year, central midfielders getting into the final third.
Might I add am not that fussed if Carrol comes back just fascinated at the balls on Newcastle to even try such a deal.
Other Newcastle deals
Debuchy (RB) has made it very clear now to his club and the press he want to come to Newcastle. Lille are looking to wait to sign a replacement before sealing the deal and that peaving him off. (this is the deal I really want to come off)
Douglas (cb) a bid has been put in for 3.15million. I expect the deal to be around 4.5. Year left on his contract and made it clear he wants to leave. Has to stay in Holland until the 30th of Aug to be able to play for Holland which he good enough to do.
Anita (LB/DM) is trowing toys out of the pram and demanding a move 5m euros bid rejected
Other Newcastle deals
Debuchy (RB) has made it very clear now to his club and the press he want to come to Newcastle. Lille are looking to wait to sign a replacement before sealing the deal and that peaving him off. (this is the deal I really want to come off)
Douglas (cb) a bid has been put in for 3.15million. I expect the deal to be around 4.5. Year left on his contract and made it clear he wants to leave. Has to stay in Holland until the 30th of Aug to be able to play for Holland which he good enough to do.
Anita (LB/DM) is trowing toys out of the pram and demanding a move 5m euros bid rejected
Utd need to really start winning the ball back up the pitch - far too often we wouldnt get it until it was around the penalty area, and then 1st touch wasnt good enough when passing forward.
It will be interesting to see how Petrucci and Powell get introduced (via CC squad, or maybe early EPL sub apps? once game has been won) , Im not holding any hope for Anderson - it doesnt seem as though we can even give him away lol
It will be interesting to see how Petrucci and Powell get introduced (via CC squad, or maybe early EPL sub apps? once game has been won) , Im not holding any hope for Anderson - it doesnt seem as though we can even give him away lol
Its not daft. City offer him the best chance of success so why would he go to Utd?
Your comment pretty pointless with no explaination as to why you think my post is "daft" Some might say stupid but no one wants to get into trouble
Okay you said there was no logical reason to sign for Man Utd, no logical reason, lets see;
Play under one of the greatest managers of all time
Play with some of the best players in the world
Play for one of the biggest clubs in Europe
Have a real chance of winning trophies every single year
I'd say those are 4 pretty big reasons for any player to want to play for Man Utd
Conversely had we not lost to Wigan, yes WIGAN and thrown away AT HOME a 2 goal advantage to Everton TWICE we'd of won the title comfortably. As for us not improving only time will tell that, if Vidic stays fit that'll be an improvement, if Cleverley stays fit that'll be an improvement, if Kagawa shows his Dortmund form that could be an improvement, far to many maybe's to call anything right now
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Why, Liverpool have shown we are clueless in the transfer market, it's Robbie Keane all over again.
Hopefully this will never happene again, I cannot believe it happened once, let alone twice.
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