The stable door has been left open too long... There's so many guns out in the general public it would take generations to change it. And they simply don't have the desire/will to do that within their culture (at the moment).
Reported: 10 Killed in US Batman Premiere
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The stable door has been left open too long... There's so many guns out in the general public it would take generations to change it. And they simply don't have the desire/will to do that within their culture (at the moment).
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I just asked the question on Reddit why there were kids under 13 years old there and got downvoted to hell. But it's a serious question. Were these kids inside or outside the auditorium? Outside the theatre? It has serious implications for the parents/guardians and the staff. Did they let underage kids in? Or were they outside the auditorium just having drinks or something. It needs answers.
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Fair enough but answer me this hypothetical....
If you could push a button and the amount of guns in America magically became the same as the amount of guns in the UK (all guns both illegal and illegal) per head, do you think deaths by firearms would go up or down (as well as deaths in general)?
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I'm just not sure on my opinion in events like this..
http://www.mpaa.org/ratings/what-each-rating-means
The US uses a completely different rating system. A PG-13 means that parental guidance is suggested but doesn't stop children going in. Even the R rating just means 16 or younger need an adult with them.
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As per usual, Bill Mayer hits the nail on the head...
"They have this fantasy that some kind of tyranical government will get in and they'll have to rise up and take this country back; now that may have made sense when the second amendment was written when everyone had muskets but now the government has nuclear weapons, F22's and the Marine Corp; and it's probably unlikely that Vern and Earl are going to be able to take over the government."
"They have this fantasy that some kind of tyranical government will get in and they'll have to rise up and take this country back; now that may have made sense when the second amendment was written when everyone had muskets but now the government has nuclear weapons, F22's and the Marine Corp; and it's probably unlikely that Vern and Earl are going to be able to take over the government."
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Only in america can a gun nut kill 12 people on a killing spree.... oh wait, happend in the UK 2 years ago.
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Ah right. So it's strongly advised but not enforced. That's pretty shonky to be honest. And who would really bring their 4 month old baby into a midnight screening of a violent film? Or 6 year old for that matter.
Basically you were trying to troll and got found out then they kicked the proverbial out of you.
Lol.
Get a grip of yourself. Next you'll be saying they deserve it for doing such a thing.
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Yes, there doesn't need to be answers at all, they have a sensible ratings system, where by kids who can see the film on tv any time they want, can also go to the cinema when accompanied by a parent/guardian who gets to choose what their child can see.
Likewise, premiers at 12am is a publicity stunt that cinemas/studios needs to think about, the guy could obviously just as easily have walked into a midday showing of Bambi and shot kids so not sure why you think these answers would change anything?
Likewise, seriously what has 12am got to do with anything. Every kid on earth has stayed up late for some special occasion or another, an ecplise, a sighting of a planet, comets.
http://www.hollywood.com/news/Record_Breaking_Midnight_Screenings_of_Harry_Potter_7_Pt_2/7817823
LOADS of kids went to midnight showings of Harry Potter, and loads of kids went to the UK midnight screenings. As i said before, someone could have walked into any time screening of ANY film and done this, or walked into a school, or a starbucks, or a supermarket, anything, should kids never be allowed out because a psycho might kill them? Is there a higher incidence of spree killings in cinema's or after midnight?
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Yep, and he had every legal right to own those guns, unfortunately.
Do you think a 6 month old baby will be watching the movie? They would likely be sleeping. My main issue for taking a child that young would be if it started crying.
I have also taken my 6 1/2 year old daughter to see PG12 films in this country. Obviously I would do the research on the film first to see if it would be problematic, so Avengers was a "Yes" but Batman is a "No" for me.
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Ah joy, the USA gun-law debate again.
My two penneth is that here in the UK where guns are banned, the bad guys still have them... In-fact, it's only the bad guys that have them. In the USA where guns are allowed (but perhaps not licensed as tighly as they should be) both sides have guns - the good guys and the bad guys.
And when people say "ZOMG if you allowed guns in the UK eleventy million people would get shot", I'd bet you money that the number of people getting stabbed would go down. And I bet that in the USA if they banned guns the number of stabbings would go up. Should we ban knives too? But then like with guns in the UK, the bad guys would still have them and it's only the law-abiding majority that would be affected by the law. Scum will still do bad stuff with no matter what tools are available to them.
My two penneth is that here in the UK where guns are banned, the bad guys still have them... In-fact, it's only the bad guys that have them. In the USA where guns are allowed (but perhaps not licensed as tighly as they should be) both sides have guns - the good guys and the bad guys.
And when people say "ZOMG if you allowed guns in the UK eleventy million people would get shot", I'd bet you money that the number of people getting stabbed would go down. And I bet that in the USA if they banned guns the number of stabbings would go up. Should we ban knives too? But then like with guns in the UK, the bad guys would still have them and it's only the law-abiding majority that would be affected by the law. Scum will still do bad stuff with no matter what tools are available to them.
This is a bit weird for me as I spent some time in Aurora last year and visited that very cinema on a couple of occasions. The town was a bit of a dump to be honest but generally, I felt safer in Colorado than in any other state I visited ouside of maybe Wyoming. Just real nice down to earth American people, not the bible bashing crazies you see down in the deep south. Didn't see a single gun during the 4 days I was there last year and the week I spent in Colorado Springs this year which I certainly couldn't say for Texas 
Such as shame to see so many lives cut short by one guy with clear mental issues.
I love the American news comments saying if more people were armed, they could have ended the shooting spree soone.... because shooting through smoke in a dark crowded cinema with people fleeing everywhere would not just end up in some mass gunfight with many mroe people cut down in the crossfire... :/
Such as shame to see so many lives cut short by one guy with clear mental issues.I love the American news comments saying if more people were armed, they could have ended the shooting spree soone.... because shooting through smoke in a dark crowded cinema with people fleeing everywhere would not just end up in some mass gunfight with many mroe people cut down in the crossfire... :/
Using completely legal firearms no less, meaning that we should have stricter control and the yanks definitely should.
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Not true and misleading.
A) In the UK there are far more guns in "the good guys" hands than the bad guys (farmers, people who shoot for sport, armed police, the army etc etc), there isn't a blackout on guns here they are just heavily restricted (to make sure that only the good guys have them, legally anyway).
B) Whilst you didn't explicitly say it, not all 'bad guys' have guns in fact very, very, very, few of them do. When guns are used here it hits the headlines because it's so rare in the UK to die via a firearm. The vast majority of gun deaths in the US are unreported (especially here) as they are so common.
I'd bet the people in the cinema would've much rather the attacker wield a knife than a gun. Plus, knives are useful for things other than killing.