how much does watercooling lower temp by?
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Yes, but an air cooler will often beat/equal it and be quieter.
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a lot lower than 50c idle =)
But no lower than ambient lol...
Upgrading your cooling capacity is more about overheads, bigger overheads typically mean higher overclocks. Idle temps tend to be about the same...give or take...
But no lower than ambient lol...
Upgrading your cooling capacity is more about overheads, bigger overheads typically mean higher overclocks. Idle temps tend to be about the same...give or take...
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This is hardly scientific but this is my O/C result on Core i5 4.6Ghz on a custom water loop
I've just been looking through the overclocking thread in the CPU forum and if I had the same setup on air my temps would be high 70's to maybe mid 80's.
I've just run 20min blast of prime95 at 4.7Ghz @ 1.415v and the hottest my CPU got was 60c most of the time it was hovering at 59c. So as you can see a custom waterloop can make a hell of a lot difference (you can also have fun with it like putting your rad into a large bucket filled with ice and slat water!) to you temps over traditional coolers, you also have the added benefit of having a very quiet system. The drawbacks are that setting up a waterloop isn't that easy for novices, you need a lot patience and it's not cheap but when you get it working it's gives a big sense of satisfaction.
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I see you want a AIO solution. Meh, don't bother there liable to break and leak, just stick to a traditional HSF such this Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2, buy this week you can save 40p of the normal selling price. Such much better then the stock cooler. If you really want to get into water cooling I'm sure we can do a cheapish custom loop.
I've just been looking through the overclocking thread in the CPU forum and if I had the same setup on air my temps would be high 70's to maybe mid 80's.
I've just run 20min blast of prime95 at 4.7Ghz @ 1.415v and the hottest my CPU got was 60c most of the time it was hovering at 59c. So as you can see a custom waterloop can make a hell of a lot difference (you can also have fun with it like putting your rad into a large bucket filled with ice and slat water!) to you temps over traditional coolers, you also have the added benefit of having a very quiet system. The drawbacks are that setting up a waterloop isn't that easy for novices, you need a lot patience and it's not cheap but when you get it working it's gives a big sense of satisfaction.
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I see you want a AIO solution. Meh, don't bother there liable to break and leak, just stick to a traditional HSF such this Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2, buy this week you can save 40p of the normal selling price. Such much better then the stock cooler. If you really want to get into water cooling I'm sure we can do a cheapish custom loop.
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I think saying they're liable to break and leak is slightly misleading. They're certainly less likely to leak than a custom loop. Although, I do agree, they're not worth going for unless you lack the space or you like the looks
Hi, don't forget air coolers just cool the cpu, most custom loop owners cool the cpu + gpu, all l hear is my WDHD500GB when being used.
As for my custom loop it cools my [email protected] + toxic6950@6970-950/1400MHz my pc room reached 26'c and after 4HRs gaming temps never went over core-temps never went 66'c, idle temps average 30>34'c/max across the cores 56>60'c using low rpm fans so its very quiet. I started with a H50 them built alow cost custom loop cooling cpu + gpu cost just under £300 then over 2yrs slowly upgraded my loop. All l do for a leak test is power up my PC check for leaks after 10 minutes idle then run prime for an hour them check it twice a day for afew days.
I wonder how many peeps on air coolers turned down their overclock due to the hot weather, me never.
He was talking about all in one water coolers not custom.
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Im running a passive WC build atm as after coming back from an iMac I wanted silence, stock clock 2550K its halved the temps the stock Intel HS/fan was getting. Which means I can hear my cat farting on my bed
lol.yeo, I agree with you, but I think you misread, I was saying that an air cooler would be better than an AIO
Hi Cleeeco, AIO's > l was one of the first to get a H50 fom OCUK the stock fan was noisy and just couped with my [email protected]. But changed the fan to a Apache 120mm and that improved temps and was very quiet, l had it for nearly two years no-probs. They are agood seller and l agree a few will be unreliable as they have moving parts fan, pump + water leaks due to seals failing. Where a Prolimatech Megahalems only has fans, it would be interesting to see how many AIO's fail out of the AIO'S sold just from OCUK.
Hi Cleeeco, AIO's > l was one of the first to get a H50 fom OCUK the stock fan was noisy and just couped with my [email protected]. But changed the fan to a Apache 120mm and that improved temps and was very quiet, l had it for nearly two years no-probs. They are agood seller and l agree a few will be unreliable as they have moving parts fan, pump + water leaks due to seals failing. Where a Prolimatech Megahalems only has fans, it would be interesting to see how many AIO's fail out of the AIO'S sold just from OCUK.
yeah, again, i'm not disputing anything there
The failure rate is there, and it is higher than air coolers but lower than custom loops
I found the pump unit on the H50 to be a little too loud, this was only noticed wihen the computer was virtually silent though
simple it depends on your ambient as always ultimatley. if you are in a warm room water cooling wont kool your system as well as a cold room water delays the system reaching ambient by longer than air will best answer for long term use is use A/C and have your room nice and fresh.
typically water will remove more pc heat than air and dump it into the room more quickly so the best idea is to remove that warmer air from your room asap
hence large volume external loops are better than small volume internal ones.
cause more air goes into the room and then your room coller takes that air out of the room so all stays nice and cool my cpu and water never goes over 33degrees cpu and 31 water normally sits at mid 20s if my room gets hot the A/C kicks in and cools the room
so if your room is hot the answer is not by much if your room is cold by more water just does it quicker
typically water will remove more pc heat than air and dump it into the room more quickly so the best idea is to remove that warmer air from your room asap
hence large volume external loops are better than small volume internal ones.
cause more air goes into the room and then your room coller takes that air out of the room so all stays nice and cool my cpu and water never goes over 33degrees cpu and 31 water normally sits at mid 20s if my room gets hot the A/C kicks in and cools the room
so if your room is hot the answer is not by much if your room is cold by more water just does it quicker
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im saying if your room is cold it takes longer for your water to heat up therefore you can keep your pc cooler longer and vice versa
if you are in a hot room your water will be hotter so the difference water cooling will make wont be as much as in a colder room obviously
if you keep your ambient low the base temp of the water will be low and itll take longer for your system to warm up common sense that is ...
its the same as running your pc in the summer or the winter if your house is warm in the summer your pc will heat up quicker thats not rocket science
and yes i heve aircon so what? it helps keep the room cool ... cant sleep in the summer without it
server rooms are airconditioned arnt they ?
water just removes more heat more quickly into the room from the pc unless you cool your room in time the diference wont be that much, water buys you time, bigger the room more time, cooler the room more time,
so you cant say buy how much as such as like i said previously it depend on the room temp.
if you are in a hot room your water will be hotter so the difference water cooling will make wont be as much as in a colder room obviously
if you keep your ambient low the base temp of the water will be low and itll take longer for your system to warm up common sense that is ...
its the same as running your pc in the summer or the winter if your house is warm in the summer your pc will heat up quicker thats not rocket science
and yes i heve aircon so what? it helps keep the room cool ... cant sleep in the summer without it
server rooms are airconditioned arnt they ?
water just removes more heat more quickly into the room from the pc unless you cool your room in time the diference wont be that much, water buys you time, bigger the room more time, cooler the room more time,
so you cant say buy how much as such as like i said previously it depend on the room temp.
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exactly