How should the NHS deal with the obesity epidemic? Lost battle?

Andy · 25 Jul 2012 at 14:24

OhEsEcks said:
So you were intentionally trolling then by posting stuff to get a rise out of people? Wasn't someone suspended the other day for that?

I think he was just trying to have abit of a laugh. Welcome to GD, don't take it too seriously.

elmarko · 25 Jul 2012 at 14:33

OhEsEcks said:
So you were intentionally trolling then by posting stuff to get a rise out of people? Wasn't someone suspended the other day for that?

To be fair, I thought you were doing the same.

OhEsEcks · 25 Jul 2012 at 14:35

elmarko1234 said:
To be fair, I thought you were doing the same.

Which is rich considering your post on this page.

sketchytom · 25 Jul 2012 at 14:38

Smaller doors into hospitals/doctors/walk in centre's

fix all problems there

One · 25 Jul 2012 at 14:45

sketchytom said:
Smaller doors into hospitals/doctors/walk in centre's

fix all problems there

The fatties would just use the disabled access.

Scotty123 · 25 Jul 2012 at 14:52

Ohesecks I like your signature

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sketchytom · 25 Jul 2012 at 14:55

desires said:
The fatties would just use the disabled access.

not if all disabled access was by lift that shouted 'GET THE **** OFF FATTIES OVER LOAD OVER LOAD DROP THE BREAD STICKS AND I CANT BELIEVE ITS NOT BUTTER AND ROLL YOURSELF OUT'

OhEsEcks · 25 Jul 2012 at 14:56

Scotty123 said:
Ohesecks I like your signature .

Woden · 25 Jul 2012 at 15:04

regulus said:
.. Ask them?

Why would I know why perfectly functional people would rather spend hours in front of the TV/Computer eating **** than going out to exercise 3 times a week.

Ask them? Fantastic. Years and years of psychological studies by qualified people can be ignored, we can save money on stopping any new ones.

Just ask them. Job done.

bruce · 25 Jul 2012 at 15:43

Cr0fty said:
I'm a firm believer that raising a child to be obese is also some form of neglect and or unfit parenting. Name and shame and all that jazz...

spot on.

All this 'my kid's got a medical condition' ...maybe in about 5-10% of cases.

most obese kids are brought up eating rubbish. Forced bad eating habits...It's irresponsible parenting, indirect cruelty, the parents responsible should be locked up.

Seen a kid in a pushchair recently, must have been about 2 or 3 yrs old. Jumbo sausage roll in one hand choc bar in other, can of coke in Mum's hand at the ready. Lordy lord, the kids got nee chance.

D.P. · 25 Jul 2012 at 16:27

OhEsEcks said:
Obesity is self inflicted. As such you should be made to pay for your own health care. Same with smoking, drug and drink related hospital treatments.

Many conditions are self inflicted, people drive themselves and then end up in car crashes, people play sports and then have injuries. It is hard to draw the line, perhaps someone's family was killed, they lost their job, their family pet was hit by Adar and due to severe depression became an alcoholic - is it not fair that society pays to treat his condition?

One thing I would like to see is a very large fat tax on unhealthy fast food, put a 30% tax on McDonald's and not only will there be a small but measurable decline in whales but at least there will be impressed revenue to support the NhS.

IrishChr1s · 25 Jul 2012 at 16:29

Public awareness and better food labelling, its not going to go away overnight.

StriderX · 25 Jul 2012 at 16:33

IrishChr1s said:
Public awareness and better food labelling, its not going to go away overnight.

Well...it could, if the government were fascists. -hint-hint-

Jack Bauer · 25 Jul 2012 at 16:36

OhEsEcks said:
Sports injuries that are self inflicted, yes. It's the individuals fault they injured themselves. Having your ankle broken by someone else performing a two footed tackle, no. RSI? Yes. It's the individuals fault they injured themselves by not taking care of themselves to alleviate the problem. Same with hernias.

People who're obese because they can't stop filling themselves with food should not be treated on the NHS. Nor should any of them be treated on the NHS for diseases and illnesses that occur because of their eating.

Eaters can't go cold turkey? They can put the pie down and stop ****ing eating.

Please tell me you are 12... I hope you are never unfortunate enough to get addicted to something. However, in the event that you do, I expect that you will not be seeking treatment for said addiction and the resulting medical problems?

OhEsEcks · 25 Jul 2012 at 16:46

Jack Bauer said:
Please tell me you are 12... I hope you are never unfortunate enough to get addicted to something. However, in the event that you do, I expect that you will not be seeking treatment for said addiction and the resulting medical problems?

I smoke. The tax I pay on tobacco more than covers my NHS care. Even though I'm with BUPA.

StriderX · 25 Jul 2012 at 16:47

OhEsEcks said:
I smoke. The tax I pay on tobacco more than covers my NHS care. Even though I'm with BUPA.

Stop smoking then?

DO IT. :eek:

Jack Bauer · 25 Jul 2012 at 16:55

OhEsEcks said:
I smoke. The tax I pay on tobacco more than covers my NHS care. Even though I'm with BUPA.

Then you are in a privileged position and should consider that when you suggest the larger percentage of smokers should just be left to die for their habit.

OhEsEcks · 25 Jul 2012 at 17:02

Jack Bauer said:
Then you are in a privileged position and should consider that when you suggest the larger percentage of smokers should just be left to die for their habit.

I'm not in a privileged position.

regulus · 25 Jul 2012 at 19:23

Woden said:
Ask them? Fantastic. Years and years of psychological studies by qualified people can be ignored, we can save money on stopping any new ones.

Just ask them. Job done.

Laziness needs to be studied?

starfighter · 25 Jul 2012 at 19:27

Unhealthy food should be taxed like cigs and alcohol. Simple.