Does windows 8 bring anything to PC Gamers?

I wont be bothering with it anyway. But please dont make it a closed platform \:

You should and it's not, you should at least buy a copy on release, otherwise you are going to cost yourself loads of money when you do upgrade. They are doing a special offer till jan. it really is a good OS.
 
One slight flaw in that.
If the user never knew what steam was in the first place, they are not a customer and will not cause valve to lose money, it may stop their rapid growth though. I will always be keeping steam, and buy games through it. I have a lot of games in my account.

True. But as you say it's going to steal new customers from Valve. If the latest COD is available via Windows Store and Steam, the majority of Windows 8 users are going to buy it from Windows Store unless it's heavily discounted.
 
The damage has already been done when it comes to artificial limitations, drm, privacy, sand boxing, dlc, hats etc.

What should be happening is laws that say users can do what they like with hardware and companies should be forced to be reasonably open with their software, i hate the way most big companies act, greed is all they're motivated by.
 
True. But as you say it's going to steal new customers from Valve. If the latest COD is available via Windows Store and Steam, the majority of Windows 8 users are going to buy it from Windows Store unless it's heavily discounted.

They'll follow their usual buying habits, they're not suddenly going to change.
 
Windows 8 doesn't change anything now, the problem is what it has the potential to change in the future. It's the first step towards a closed system where everything goes through Microsoft. Of course Gabe sees that a threat because obviously it is.

I have a theory that there's more to the linux steam client then first meets the eye. Sony and Steam have a common enemy and together they have the potential to shake up the DirectX/Microsoft monopoly by making OpenGL much more common in AAA games, thus making linux ports just as easy as Windows ports.

I have a feeling that the new generation of consoles is going to shake up the PC market more then ever before.
 
True. But as you say it's going to steal new customers from Valve. If the latest COD is available via Windows Store and Steam, the majority of Windows 8 users are going to buy it from Windows Store unless it's heavily discounted.

No they won't as they CAN NOT buy such games from the store.

Unless developers make such games into metro apps.
 
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Windows 8 is a major problem for Steam on Windows and is going to make a huge dent in Valve's profits. Microsoft's integrated app store (Windows Store?) is going to have an instant userbase and it sounds like Valve expect quite a number of publishers to use it. Especially if it can be used to bring Xbox and PC versions of games closer together.

Users will be in the position of either buying a digital copy of a game directly via windows, or via a third-party client (Steam). Considering that the majority of PC users (NOTE: Not PC gamers) don't know what Steam is, they are going to use the Windows Store rather than faf around downloading and installing another client.

That's why Valve are setting their sights on Linux and praying. They are set to lose a large chuck of money if Windows 8 takes off.

The Prophet has spoken.

Some things to consider:

  1. Valve is not interested in non-gamers, contrary to your belief.
  2. Anyone who's tech-savvy will not upgrade to Windows 8 unless they plan on buying a new laptop next year.
  3. You're speaking of Windows Store like it's already a success. So far it's a promise of bigger promises.
  4. Valve's games are all Steamworks, require Steam to install wherever you get them from, meaning that it's gonna be the platform of choice, regardless.
  5. There's no reason why Steam wouldn't have its own Metro app.
  6. Steam has been gaining customer base each year, pretty much doubling it on yearly basis in the past few years.
  7. Microsoft is never going to allow the open distribution of indies the way that Steam does.
  8. Transition to Windows 8 will be a funny process.
  9. EA is surely going to push its own Origin platform the same way that Steam does.
  10. Ubisoft is doing the same.
  11. All in all, more and more publishers try their own thing, not so much for integrating with Windows Metro.
  12. Windows 8 apologists make me laugh.
 
If Steam or Origin were to become Metro apps, would they have to pay commission from their sales to Microsoft or is it totally irrelevant?

Yes, but why would they become metro apps in the near feature. Maybe if Microsoft removes desktop in future windows releases.
 
Inb4 Microsoft get stung like when they shipped with Media player and no browser choice for people.

And while the court battles rage i'll be playing steam games on Win 7.
 
Yes, but why would they become metro apps in the near feature. Maybe if Microsoft removes desktop in future windows releases.

Bingo, now you see the heart of the problem. The problem isn't what Windows8 has done now. It's the direction it is taking Windows in the future.
 
Does the Windows 8 Preview require your motherboard manufacturer to have made drivers for it or do the windows 7 drivers work? I really want to try this out.
 
You see no possible future where Microsoft would want to combine x86 apps into the Metro store to monopolise their 30% commission?

:rolleyes:

Why don't you read what I say, rather than talking rubbish.

My second post, well before you entered this thread talking rubbish

So again overhyped rubbish, he's saying that because of the future w10/11/12, when the traditional desktop might die.

Oh and 30% commission it won't be, big developers negotiate. Depending how much Microsoft wants them depends how much discount they get. It's only a set fee for small developers.
 
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