Does it really cost 28k per olympic security guard?

Are you trying to make a point with pointless and random figures?

I think the point he is making is that if you or me go to buy an item we get the market rate, or if we don't, we say no thanks and look for a better deal.

When the government goes shopping with its massive purchasing power and the economies of scale that it brings it ends up with an higher price than you or me would pay. From my own experience in the army I frequently see that we pay very large amounts for items that can be bought for a fraction of the cost by me as an individual.
 
Either they are stupidly over paid or those of us drafted in from the forces are being stupidly under paid. I'll let you decide.

I'm here with lads that, due to the hours they're having to do, work out to be getting paid just over £2 an hour while they're here.

It riles me when you hear about tube and bus drivers getting an extra £500 bonus during the Olympic period while we're having to cancel £500 holidays to compensate for a lack of manpower.

You signed the dotted line... remember... Blah blah blah usual **** you hear from people.

It's ********, I signed the dotted lime to help out the country in times of national emergency, to go to war, the usual stuff you'd expect for a soldier. I didn't sign up to pretty much help out a private security firm after they've totally been unable to deliver on a contract that they signed.
I can't complain, because I've avoided the olympic farce s far. But who knows if that'll change once I get home from Holiday. As the games haven't started yet, we'll just have to wait to see if we need yet more soldiers deploying around the country to help with security.
 
You signed the dotted line...

And we usually get the your paid 24 hours a day thing thrown at us but the army is supposed to comply with working time regulations, so once we've done 48hours we should all be saying - see you next week! Would be interesting if we all stood up for ourselves and followed the rules!
 
And we usually get the your paid 24 hours a day thing thrown at us but the army is supposed to comply with working time regulations, so once we've done 48hours we should all be saying - see you next week! Would be interesting if we all stood up for ourselves and followed the rules!

army... stand up for yourself... i'd like to see that.... <hides>
 
The wages are pretty lowly compared to the amount per head, especially when you bear in mind that 28K covers a period of less than two months - the olympic games and the paralympic games run from the 27th July to 9th September.

The bulk of the recruits are being sent by the job centre, who will no doubt pick up the tab and pay the training provider for the course. Presumably, the training provider in this instance will be G4S - no doubt charging the taxpayer or trainee around £200 quid for the mandatory 30 hour course.

As the Job Centre will most likely be paying the tab, the SIA training given will be for Door Supervisors, which allows you to be a bouncer, events steward etc in addition to being a security guard as this apparently gives the candidate more opportunities for employment.

Many of the olympic security guards have to buy their own uniforms, presumably from a certain provider of G4S branded workwear. If you want to wear covert body armour, get it yourself. The gloves are about £30 a pair, a decent KR1 anti-stab vest is around £300

The rate of £8.50 is good for static security, and the supervisory staff get an amazing £11.50 per hour. If you actually turn up to do the work you get a £1 per hour bonus!

The thing is, in London I'd expect a competent doorman to get £10-15ph working the doors and the head doorman to be on £15-20ph

G4S only had 10 permanent managers assigned to the games, and 700 temporary managers that a couple of newpapers had described as 'low paid'.

Where the hell is the money going if the company claims it could make a loss??

That £284m could have paid for 15,000 police officers for a year.
 
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And we usually get the your paid 24 hours a day thing thrown at us but the army is supposed to comply with working time regulations, so once we've done 48hours we should all be saying - see you next week! Would be interesting if we all stood up for ourselves and followed the rules!

Ha.

I did 96 hours over 7 days for the first three weeks I was here.

It has calmed down a lot now that more troops have arrived though, which is just as well because going man down was on the cards for some of the lads.
 
I started reading this thinking, *28k... sounds about right?*

Then I realised it was for an 8 week period. WTF.
 
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