** ALL NEW (WITH RULES) Summer Transfer Window 2012/2013 Season Rumours/Signings **

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Even if City sell Dzeko and Adebayor, they still have Tevez, Balotelli and Aguero. All three will want to play regularly, surely?
I will be honest the only reason i want us to get RvP is so utd don't get him :p

I am very excited to see the Aguero and Tevez partnership. The latter looks as sharp and fit as he ever has IMO. Still a complete **** but as a player he is truly incredible.

The formation I think we will go with will accommodate at least 2 strikers every game and there will be plenty of rotation like there was last season.
 
why do you think Utd will only cough up only 15m? I'm sure he would sell 5m+ worth of shirt sales on his own per season so I can't see 20m being that much of an issue

I'm also not 100% sure it would be Completely AW's decision ( rather than lose him for nothing in a year).

IF the player refuses to re-sign and doesn't want to migrate, club is left with few options.

We wouldnt lose him from nothing. We would probably get CL qualification with him. Easily worth 20m.

Utd only offered 12m I think, it was reported. The lowest out of the three. its a gamble to keep him but could be worth it rather than sending to help out the two teams competing for CL spots with you.
 
There's a bit of speculation around Agger's future at Liverpool. I have no idea how true any of it is but how good/bad a deal would it be if he was sold for £20m+?

I'm his biggest fan and I'd love to keep him but I've just had a quick look and he's only been available for around half our games since breaking into the side. Could that money be used to strengthen the squad as a whole?
An FM based myth...

Though our fan base went up at least 200 people when we signed Tadanari Lee with a few very excited japanese fans turning up!

Don't think they are pumping 5m into the club though... (hot japanese women did improve preseason games)

If a tiny club signs a high profile player you're likely to see a noticeable increase in attendances, merchandise sales and strengthen the clubs hand when signing commercial deals. The bigger the club the smaller the impact.

Utd won't sell a noticeable amount of extra shirts on the back of signing Van Persie (nearly all Van Persie shirts sold would be at the expense of Rooney, Nani etc shirts). Because of the way shirt deals are sold, any additional shirts sold would barely benefit the club anyway.
 
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I will be honest the only reason i want us to get RvP is so utd don't get him :p

I am very excited to see the Aguero and Tevez partnership. The latter looks as sharp and fit as he ever has IMO. Still a complete **** but as a player he is truly incredible.

The formation I think we will go with will accommodate at least 2 strikers every game and there will be plenty of rotation like there was last season.

But RvP isn't a Ronaldo or a Messi, a Tevez/Aguero partnership will be more valuable than just buying RvP because you don't want us to get him. Then on top of that you have Balotelli who can come in for either.

We wouldnt lose him from nothing. We would probably get CL qualification with him. Easily worth 20m.

Utd only offered 12m I think, it was reported. The lowest out of the three. its a gamble to keep him but could be worth it rather than sending to help out the two teams competing for CL spots with you.

The fees are pure guesswork really, and from what I saw we'd allegedly offered the most.

If you've got an unhappy player wanting to leave plus an offer of £20m~ which gives you some more cash to get a defender or two in, I think you'd be foolish not to take it. Giroud plays in RvP's position as well, and he's pretty good by all accounts. I think Drunkenmaster pointed out, having Giroud play second fiddle to RvP could hamper his settling/future form.

Even without RvP you've got what it takes to finish 3rd or at the very least, 4th. You should be comfortably ahead of Spurs and Newcastle.
 
Even if City sell Dzeko and Adebayor, they still have Tevez, Balotelli and Aguero. All three will want to play regularly, surely?

I can't imagine him playing for Man Utd or Man City, but the amount of press reports saying he favours Man Utd have been overwhelming, so maybe with the right offer we can seal the deal. I don't think £20m would be a bad price, everything is a risk and he's one worth taking at that price. That's assuming he isn't demanding higher wages than Rooney or something, though.

So if they sell two and have three entire strikers, a fourth would be a bad idea? Did you miss how many games Balotelli is unavailable for, the fact that players get injured, the fact that RVP is available and Tevez might even if he stays not sign a new contract and want to leave.

4 strikers for three positions isn't an awful lot at all for a top club, let alone one with a huge amount of cash.

Wenger keeping RVP is stupid, and people who suddenly think Arsenal will compete because we've bought a few players is almost as stupid. We've HAD a great squad for half the time we haven't won anything, and we didn't win anything there, the same old mistakes, the same defensive problems, the same mentality problems, the same benching great players for his favourites.

We haven't been looking for a fantastic squad with which to compete for the league for 8 years, its been 2-3 years, for 8 years we've been looking for the defence, the mentality, the tactics and the deadwood to be fixed... we've fixed exactly none of that at all.

I don't begrudge RVP going, he's spent 8 years at Arsenal, for those banging on about loyalty, don't forget that Arsenal have mismanaged more injuries than any other club pretty much in the existance of the universe.... everyone mocks our medical staff including all Arsenal fans, but when it suits us we forget. Its more than likely that a lot of the time RVP missed was due to poor medical treatment. Also people include his lack of appearances in his first few seasons as proof he is always injured when a LOT of the time in the first two years he was merely a second string to a worldclass Henry and others.

Any club would be lucky to have him, he'd do more for 20mil for Utd or anyone else than Moura would do for 20mil, let alone 30mil. He's far better than Rooney and again for the people who laughed at the idea of him on the wing.

He came to Arsenal as mostly a winger, he's played there plenty of times, his creative/attacking/throughball/vision is far superior to Rooney and he's completely capable of playing on the wing. He has only played as the most upfront striker for Arsenal for 2 years really.
 
It must take so much energy to be so depressing all the time DM lol

Gets real boring listening to the same old complaints. Third place was a result considering where we were in October.

Lets just see how we do and hope our players settle in nicely and we start the season firing.

We have got three good players come in, one leaving (probably). New defensive assistant manager. Personally I am really looking forward to the start of the season with or without RVP.
 
Third place was a result considering where we were in October.

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i'd say it was more a case of spurs throwing away 3rd than arsenal getting it. what i will agree with you on is how i too am really looking forward to the start of the season. this season is going to be epic for so many reasons.
 
i'd say it was more a case of spurs throwing away 3rd than arsenal getting it. what i will agree with you on is how i too am really looking forward to the start of the season. this season is going to be epic for so many reasons.

Still a lot of work to do on Arsenal half but I agree with you on the up and coming season. Sometimes you have to forget about the past seasons and enjoy the football for the football.

I am sure by the end of the season we will all be bitter and twisted like DM :p
 
Carlo was quoted earlier on Sunday saying that PSG are absolutely done in the transfer market for this window (in response to the Ashley Cole rumour)
 
Don't think I've seen someone want a player to join their club as much as you with Moura Robbo lol.

Be great if he joined Liverpool :p
 
Haha just read that West Ham are all set to release Ravel Morrison from his contract, yep that's right the lad with the massive hype that they only signed from us in January :o

Morrison set to move to Birmingham on loan
 
Carlo was quoted earlier on Sunday saying that PSG are absolutely done in the transfer market for this window (in response to the Ashley Cole rumour)

Indeed, but it seems the transfer is due to go through in January, as PSG are currently using all of their non-EU player allocations.

Sky Italia have just said the deal is worth €45m, but they're not particularly reliable.

Hopefully this will be sorted soon. :p
 
It must take so much energy to be so depressing all the time DM lol

Gets real boring listening to the same old complaints. Third place was a result considering where we were in October.

Lets just see how we do and hope our players settle in nicely and we start the season firing.

We have got three good players come in, one leaving (probably). New defensive assistant manager. Personally I am really looking forward to the start of the season with or without RVP.

Third place wasn't a result compared to where we were in October, while everyone panicked their arses off in October, I realised that a starting trio of Newcastle, Liverpool and Utd with our current team wasn't likely to bring in many points at all. I'll point out again that we got MORE points in our first 19 games than the last 19 games, while everyone bangs on about our second half of the season being a massive comeback. Spurs scored embarrassingly badly in the second half of the season, and Chelsea were being run by a(nother) madman.

There was a slim chance we'd come lower than 4th last year, about the only reason we didn't was RVP's goals. Even with RVP's goals had Chelsea and Spurs not imploded we would not have gotten 4th. What was our single biggest problem last year, defence, what did we have, goals. What have we done so far this year, bought another in a long line of strikers to play on the wing, a guy who has only been in the french top league for 2 years at the age of 25 with a SINGLE good season under his belt(who won't play if RVP stayed) who was a replacement for Chamakh. Have we improved/fixed the defence in any way, no, are we losing our top scorer, yes.

Did anyone wonder why Podolski looked so poor on the wing in the summer?

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecast?id=320993&cc=5739

At cologn he starts as a withdrawn striker, and his average position is bang alongside the "main" striker, he got 18 league goals, the "main" striker got 5, they played in a way that Germany don't. He played more on the wing at Bayern and for Germany and was great, for a couple years he's played closer to where RVP is and been great, but his wingplay has gone to crap. Yet we clearly will play him left wing and Giroud upfront. It's a role Podolski hasn't been good at for two years and he looked utterly ineffective for Germany.

So where have Arsenal improved as of yet, nowhere, we bought another upfront striker to play on the wing, that hasn't worked for the last 48 strikers, we got Giroud, one top year in a not top league, could be great, could be crap....

Santi could be a genuine improvement, but no where near Fabregas and what did we win with a better first team, better back up, better defence and Fabregas? Nothing, so why will we suddenly win something because we've got WORSE players than a couple years ago but slightly better than last year?

I'm happy to be optimistic about Arsenal, when we have a team capable of winning. The signings and potential signings won't fix a single one of the problems the team actually has, nor any of the reasons we haven't won anything for 8 years.

When I post I guess I expect someone, Arsenal or otherwise, to make some counter points, maybe I missed something, maybe Giroud was an epic prospect at 18 but showed loyalty when his team got relegated and that is why he was in ligue 2 till 2 years ago, I genuinely don't know that.

Point being, can an Arsenal fan or anyone else explain why when our defence is the biggest difference between us and a title, replacing our best striker with other strikers will help in any way at all?

We won't win a thing till Wenger goes and a new manager comes in and gets rid of the deadwood, its the guys Wenger plays in the first team or puts on the bench who aren't good enough that kills any chance we have, Walcott, Song, Diaby.

I don't think Park is good, but he was effective to some degree, the first year he's really awful he's gone, Diaby/Song/Walcott..... still at Arsenal, Rosicky, Gibbs, Squillaci, Djourou, still at Arsenal, denilson, Chamakh, Sagna, still at Arsenal.

If there was a choice in the past 8 years between keeping one young player and getting rid of one, Wenger has made the wrong choice almost every time. Get rid of Larrson, keep Walcott, get rid of senderos, keep Djourou, get rid of Flamini/Gilberto, keep Diaby/Denilson, get rid of bendtner/Vela, keep a whole ton of crap strikers.
 
^^you won't win anything of note with a new manager either im afraid. Arsenal cannot compete financially.

On the PSG front im old enough to remember being out bid by the French club for a Brazilian prospect. Let us hope we don't get gazumped again.
 
On the PSG front im old enough to remember being out bid by the French club for a Brazilian prospect. Let us hope we don't get gazumped again.

I'm hoping it's simply a case of the agent trying to negotiate with us, and trying to use PSG as a means of forcing the deal through. He's known for being a *beep*, shall we say.

If that's the case though, and they haven't bid, I'll expect it to have been denied by either club or the agent before tomorrow.
 
Seems Stoke are about to sign Kightly from Wolves for 1.5 mil with an extra 1 mil in future. Really happy with that, we've needed someone else to play on the wing as when ethers and Pennant are injured then we have to rely on a poor CM playing out wide. For that price it could prove to be a great signing if he can get back to where he was a couple of years back before his injury.
 
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