American white supremacist unable to tell the difference between Sikhs & Muslims?

[Craterloads]

I didn't say they did - I said most sikhs I know do - I don't know every sikh on the planet or even the majority of them

Well i doubt the view of handfulls of Sikh's you know represent the views of millions of Sikh's around the world.

They don't. Sikhs love everyone, that's how they roll.

I tend to agree, Sikh's i know are pretty cool and non hateful, contrary to as dowie suggest.

 

[Twirlywoos]

People I've met who follow the Sikh religion have been good folks. It must be annoying to be associated with the Muslim extremists due peoples ignorance and stupidity.

I tell you what's stupid - is associating Terrorism with Muslims. That's like associating Catholism with Terrorism because of the IRA bombings.

 

[Caseh]

I can only speak for myself but I haven't met more friendly people than Sikhs'

This. I went to a Guys birthday party from work who is Sikh, and his whole family was so friendly! It made me feel like I'm one of the rough people lol

 

[dowie]

Well i doubt the view of handfulls of Sikh's you know represent the views of millions of Sikh's around the world.

yeah true, though it seemed to be the case in Birmingham when I was growing up

also a few issues over in a place called Kashmir - though I'm sure they're all getting along well these days.

 

[Craterloads]

yeah true, though it seemed to be the case in Birmingham when I was growing up

also a few issues over in a place called Kashmir - though I'm sure they're all getting along well these days.

"Sweeping statement indeed. This is how misinformation spreads."

You do realise

A: This is a territorial dispute between two COUNTRIES, and has nothing to do with Sikh's disliking Muslims.

B: Is mainly a conflict between Hindu's and Muslim residents, over territory.


Jees talk about the blind leading the blind...

 

[panyan]

These people shouldn't be allowed to hold scissors, let alone guns

+1

 

[dowie]

A: This is a territorial dispute between two COUNTRIES, and has nothing to do with Sikh's disliking Muslims.

B: Is mainly a conflict between Hindu's and Muslim residents, over territory.

so why do those two countries exist in the first place... I mean if everyone got along so swimmingly over there why the need for a split....

 

[Craterloads]

so why do those two countries exist in the first place... I mean if everyone got along so swimmingly over there why the need for a split....

What the, your ignorance is awesome. And you have the gaul to chastise the white supremicist in this case as being ignorant

Dont know how to even respond to that....

 

[dowie]

What the, your ignorance is awesome. And you have the gaul to chastise the white supremicist in this case as beng ignorant

Dont know how to even respond to that....

you could try answering it... the idea that its just an argument over territory is a bit laughable... as though there isn't sectarian violence directed against different groups within each nation... and you're trying to call me ignorant?

 

[dowie]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Pakistan#The_Muslim_League

The constitution and principles of the League were contained in the Green Book, written by Maulana Mohammad Ali. Its goals at this stage did not include establishing an independent Muslim state, but rather concentrated on protecting Muslim liberties and rights, promoting understanding between the Muslim community and other Indians, educating the Muslim and Indian community at large on the actions of the government, and discouraging violence. However, several factors over the next thirty years, including sectarian violence, led to a re-evaluation of the League's aims.[62][63] Among those Muslims in the Congress who did not initially join the League was Muhammed Ali Jinnah, a prominent statesman and barrister in Bombay. This was because the first article of the League's platform was "To promote among the Mussalmans (Muslims) of India, feelings of loyalty to the British Government".

 

[Tefal]

"Sweeping statement indeed. This is how misinformation spreads."

You do realise

A: This is a territorial dispute between two COUNTRIES, and has nothing to do with Sikh's disliking Muslims.

B: Is mainly a conflict between Hindu's and Muslim residents, over territory.


Jees talk about the blind leading the blind...

to be fair the Muslims did start lopping the sikhs heads off in that region a few years back.

Also saying it's a dispute between two countries over land is such a gross over simplification it makes the intellectual high horse you're trying to climb on look like a Shetland pony.

Kinda like saying the troubles were a dispute between two countries.

 

[Craterloads]

you could try answering it... the idea that its just an argument over territory is a bit laughable... as though there isn't sectarian violence directed against different groups within each nation... and you're trying to call me ignorant?

Jesus Dowie just stop, you made a sweeping and wrong statement followed by bunches of misinformation / non related nonsense to try to add weight to your ludicrous comment.

What has a territorial dispute over land between India and Pakistan got to do with Sikh's disliking Muslims?

You have confused Hindu's with Sikhs for a start. Secondly India and Pakistan have been to war on numerous occasions, with India's Muslim population fighting against Pakistan. Yet i still fail to see how any of this conflict between PAKISTAN and INDIA has to do with your comment.

 

[dowie]

I think its fairly clear that sectarian violence was a factor in the formation of Pakistan... trying to deny it is indeed like trying to deny that some Northern Irish Protestants don't like Catholics much...

 

[Craterloads]

to be fair the Muslims did start lopping the sikhs heads off in that region a few years back.

Also saying it's a dispute between two countries over land is such a gross over simplification it makes the intellectual high horse you're trying to climb on look like a Shetland pony.

Kinda like saying the troubles were a dispute between two countries.

Yep so the whole Kashmir land dispute is not just that? Anyhow regardless of that, it still has nothing related to justify dowies comments.

 

[Tefal]

I think its fairly clear that sectarian violence was a factor in the formation of Pakistan... trying to deny it is indeed like trying to deny that some Northern Irish Protestants don't like Catholics much...

the way i look at it is, we banned bear baiting so before we left we thought we'd set up the entertainment for the next few decades.


then someone had to let them get nukes and ruin the fun

 

[dowie]

What has a territorial dispute over land between India and Pakistan got to do with Sikh's disliking Muslims?

Its an area of the world with a history of violence between Sikhs and Muslims (yes and Hindus too but this thread isn't about them)... the violence pre-dates the formation of the two countries so your idea that its just a territorial dispute between two countries is more than a tad naive.

You have confused Hindu's with Sikhs for a start.

no I haven't - I've simply not mentioned them as they're not relevant to the thread.

Secondly India and Pakistan have been to war on numerous occasions, with India's Muslim population fighting against Pakistan. Yet i still fail to see how any of this conflict between PAKISTAN and INDIA has to do with your comment.

its the historical backdrop for the tensions between the two communities in the first place

 

[Craterloads]

Its an area of the world with a history of violence between Sikhs and Muslims (yes and Hindus too but this thread isn't about them)... the violence pre-dates the formation of the two countries so your idea that its just a territorial dispute between two countries is more than a tad naive.



no I haven't - I've simply not mentioned them as they're not relevant to the thread.



its the historical backdrop for the tensions between the two communities in the first place

That has no bearing on your generalisation that Sikhs dislike Muslims, based off the handful of Sikhs you know

 

[dowie]

That has no bearing on your generalisation that Sikhs dislike Muslims, based off the handful of Sikhs you know

jeeze were you the only muslim kid in an all white school or something?

http://faith-matters.org/projects/conflict-resolution/bridging-divides-sikh-and-muslim

This project has come about due to previous and continuing tensions between members of the Muslim and Sikh communities. These tensions include:
• Breakdowns in community relations in areas like Derby between Sikh and Muslim communities

• Sikh community members feeling vulnerable to attack because they ‘look Muslim.’

• Continued tensions between the two communities and especially between young people

• Issues around the ‘Bezhti’ play and the impact that this had on community and race relations

• Attacks on Sikhs by people thought to be Muslims

• Lack of employment and progression opportunities for members of both communities

• Stories of alleged forced conversions.

Further information that has led to this project includes the fact that there have been serious incidences of youth violence between Sikh and Muslim communities starting in 1996 within the Slough area of London .

 

[Destination]

I tell you what's stupid - is associating Terrorism with Muslims. That's like associating Catholism with Terrorism because of the IRA bombings.

Don't be absurd, Catholism is associated with paedophilia.

 

[Craterloads]

jeeze were you the only muslim kid in an all white school or something?

http://faith-matters.org/projects/conflict-resolution/bridging-divides-sikh-and-muslim

Wow, so posting and article regarding conflicts in certain areas supports your generalisations how? I could post articles showing conflicts between Buddhists and Christians, yet it wouldnt support the generalisation that Buddhists dislike Christians...

Given youve all ready admitted it was incorrect statement to make, i dont see why we are even discussing it.

yeah true, though it seemed to be the case in Birmingham when I was growing up