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lol cant be bothered to type more as its friday and beer needs to be drunk :D

if you want to prove me wrong go list all top players leagues ladder who play hc

then ill agree ;) when you come back with nothing then ill understand you may of finally grasped what i was on about .
 
So just because most people play ladders on normal it means they are better players.

Right, awesome rebuttal there.

Playing ladders with Ruleset X and Game Mode Y does not automatically mean you are a better player.

The most popular and televised boxing is Western Boxing, that automatically makes them better fighters than Kick Boxers and Muay Thai Boxers, right? Just because there is more money, more broadcast television and more competitions in said discipline. Get real, it does not work like that.
 
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It also diminishes weapon choice as you are forced to use the overpowered weapons in normal to compete.

Come off it

Counter Strike was arguably the king of any esport game and all anybody ever used was the Ak47 / M4 and maybe for a bit of a variation the AWP.

How many people did you see running around in esport matches with the TMP ? or Mac 10 ? or the XM1014 ? or the M249 ? or the Scout ?

It just didn't happen. The only variation was people using pistols in eco rounds or now in CS:S the desert eagle which has been turned into a portable AWP.
 
Come off it

Counter Strike was arguably the king of any esport game and all anybody ever used was the Ak47 / M4 and maybe for a bit of a variation the AWP.

How many people did you see running around in esport matches with the TMP ? or Mac 10 ? or the XM1014 ? or the M249 ? or the Scout ?

It just didn't happen. The only variation was people using pistols in eco rounds or now in CS:S the desert eagle which has been turned into a portable AWP.

You just agreed with my point.....
 
So just because most people play ladders on normal it means they are better players.

Right, awesome rebuttal there.

Playing ladders with Ruleset X and Game Mode Y does not automatically mean you are a better player.

The most popular and televised boxing is Western Boxing, that automatically makes them better fighters than Kick Boxers and Muay Thai Boxers, right? Just because there is more money, more broadcast television and more competitions in said discipline. Get real, it does not work like that.

Exactly fact is get a player who plays normal mode and put him in a hardcore server and watch him get slaughtered. You have to be more tactical, more careful no rambo rushing around.
 
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Normal is harder, DICE sez so. Based on what Metric?

3D spotting - can shoot blind at people behind cover wall hack style and kill them. Smoke? Ineffective versus spotting. Behind a bush? Useless. Not actually been seen but someone pressed Q in your general direction? OH SORRY DENIED.

Auto health regen - Being shot? NO WORRIES. Will take ages to kill you anyway, duck behind cover and camp like a nab till your health regens. Tank taking damage? Whatever, let's hide for a bit and wait for regen. Oh noes Helos been hit by an AA missile. Pffff counter-measures are for squares, brb hiding behind this cliff.

What's that, you want to use a non-overpowered gun and be competitive? Don't be silly Bobby. Pick the one that either excels due to Normal rulesets or guarantees you wont ever miss because god dangit you'll need half that clip to whack someone.

Claymores? Pff, Squad Flak and run through them.

Just been sniped, shake it off soldier! You'll be behind cover before they chamber a new round.

Need I go on?

Normal is utterly terrible for a game like Battlefield. It was in BC2 and it is in BF3. Competitive play is less about skill and more about using the Play2Win tactic irrespective of how cheesy or lame it is, just seems Normal rule-sets suit competitive players more, does not make them any more skilled for playing normal over hardcore. Normal mode - Need more bullets to kill someone, sure that's harder. But it's made easier by 3D spotting and all the other normal BS.

3D spotting is usually disabled in most ladders is it not ? for exactly that reason.

Health regen just isn't an issue, as most people will be running around with either a tank crew (and one a designated repair man) or they will be playing infantry role and running around as a medic and medpack.
 
lol cant be bothered to type more as its friday and beer needs to be drunk :D

if you want to prove me wrong go list all top players leagues ladder who play hc

then ill agree ;) when you come back with nothing then ill understand you may of finally grasped what i was on about .
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3D spotting is usually disabled in most ladders is it not ? for exactly that reason.

Health regen just isn't an issue, as most people will be running around with either a tank crew (and one a designated repair man) or they will be playing infantry role and running around as a medic and medpack.

Auto Regen kicks in ontop of active repair and health packs.

Just illustrates the point further that ladders are less about skill and more about using Play2Win tactics. Such tactics as only ever being Assault with a MedPack and Defib and never any other class unless rolling with armor.
 
lol with a total of 34 teams playing H/C 4v4 Squad Rush vs 55 playing 4v4 Squad Rush "Softcore"

Yes there are leagues that offer it, but its by no means more popular, or even on a par with the popularity of Softcore leagues.
Who said it was more popular ?
Why would it be .?
of course there are many more nooobs playing SC .. thats pretty much a given with all games :p
 
wtf ?

Who enjoys a game where they get their ass kicked ?

Yes its maybe not about the actual winning, but if the game itself is one sided its far from enjoyable. Why wouldn't you try to win ?

I have no idea what on earth you are on about, are you joining in on a conversation nobody is having?

Everyone 'Plays2Win' but competition based play is not at all about having fun and not at all about variety.

It is ALL about using the tactic with the highest chance of winning. If that is stacking your entire team of players as Assault with defib so you never lose tickets that is what you do.
 
Lolaroo I've not read this thread since quitting BF3 in Feb and the last page I read was hc vs sc. Just clicked in to see what was new and apparently 6 months later its still hc vs sc.
 
Lol..........

Just reinstalled BF 3 to see how the game is now and if the players have matured at all, guess what they haven't.............. :rolleyes:

Just on a server there, joined straight away guy runs in front of jet when I am taking off, he gets team killed I then get punished and spawn in deployment only to be run over in a jeep by same person and then I get kicked due to admin place............. :rolleyes:

Great game.

Guess I'll reinstall BC 2.
 
That's nothing to do with BF3 and everything to do with you joining 1000 ticket, instant spawn vehicle derp servers.

Wasn't a 1000 ticket server and wasn't an instant spawn vehicle server either (I avoid them at all costs)...... was just a standard server, flight maps with standard maps, 32 player, conquest large.

HAHA OMG NEXUS THAT SOUNDS SOOOO BAD!

SUX THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE SERVER FOR BF3, RITE?

Right just so happens that it seems to happen on nearly every server I play........:rolleyes:

As said before get like 2 great games for every 10 crap games I play.
 
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Absolutely nothing to do with accuracy.

Battlefield is not Counterstrike or Lol of Duty. It's positioned between esports retardedness titles and simulation.

If I want to play competitive FPS I will pick a suitable title, Quake, CS or otherwise. Battlefield is not one of these titles, it never will be (Bloody never well should be either). I play Battlefield because of the way it positions itself. If I hit someone centre mass or in the head with more than 1 bullet they are dead. It will take more if I shoot them in the arms or legs. I am still rewarded with quicker kills for well placed shots but not penalised with super unrealistic BS that is someone running off to regen health despite me putting 3 in the centre mass and them still running about freely.

No BF3 is not a full on sim and plenty is unrealistic, it's a compromise. Normal is a compromise too far. Nothing to do with not needing to aim more accurately (You damn well do as you are rewarded for it) and everything to do with not having to put up with BS that normal brings.

Yet again though, the 'Pro' players come out of the woodwork and preach aiming accuracy as the be all and end all of skill, in which case remove every vehicle, remove every utility (C4, claymores, MAVs, TUGS, mortar, smoke), remove any custom-ability or disparity between weapons that affects aim and..oh wait - No longer Battlefield are we?

A pretty much perfect summary of BF3. Bravo Sin

HAHA OMG NEXUS THAT SOUNDS SOOOO BAD!

SUX THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE SERVER FOR BF3, RITE?

Right ;)

Why join one of the popular good one's constantly mentioned on here when you can play metro 5000..A new wolrd of wonderand more wonder...I wonder why I am playing this...Hmm hmm hmm
 
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