Doesn't work like that does it, an amount can always be reached that would be acceptable to the selling club. If Agger wanted to stay, and I mean actually wanted to not just saying it disingenuously, could be sorted easily in one conversation. I'm not going, no matter what they offer I have no interest in hearing what they have to say. Done.
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It depends, the club could accept and advise him that they feel strongly that he should leave, or they could accept and tell him it's totally up to him.
Accepting a bid isn't usually we want rid of the player, more often than not it simply means we've reached the fee that we're ok with him going for.
Judging by that statement, you can be pretty sure if Agger does go his reasoning will be that Liverpool made the decision for him when they accepted the bid. But as I pointed out above, would that still be the case if the bid was from Stevenage?
Accepting a bid isn't usually we want rid of the player, more often than not it simply means we've reached the fee that we're ok with him going for.
Judging by that statement, you can be pretty sure if Agger does go his reasoning will be that Liverpool made the decision for him when they accepted the bid. But as I pointed out above, would that still be the case if the bid was from Stevenage?
Looking at it differently if you are a chairman of a club outside the top 4 with more limited resources then why bother if you are 5th 6th or 10th. I'm sure clubs that flirt around that area would rather not spend 100m to finish in the same spot or one place ahead.
I'm sure they save the money and hope it's enough to get a europa league place and if not they have saved a heap of cash chasing the top 4. The best hope for the chasers is the team they put together gels and has a good season, like Newcastle last year. Or Everton in previous years. Lobbing money at it just pushes the wage bill up to unsustainable levels.
Newcastle fans should well understand where that leads you.
You're wasting your time. Some people just can't seem to understand that there's a middle ground inbetween the extremes of "not for sale at any price" and "desperately trying to kick you out the door".
If we were desperately trying to get shot of Agger then he'd be gone by now. Holding out for a price that Man City possibly (maybe even probably) won't pay is not the action of a club that are actively trying to sell somebody.
You won't find any Newcastle fans advocating obscene spending but when you're chairman says something along the lines of "if we get in Europe we will make 3-4 signings " then you sign no one it tends to lead to disappointment. Especially considering with a few decent signings in the right places would make us much stronger. Another striker, a full back and a CB spending 20mill and we would be massively stronger.
Some might argue that teams need to spend money even to tread water. Newcastle finished 5th last season and IMO they need to spend to achieve 5th place again never mind worrying about the top 4. Europa league football could take it's toll so I think they need to add a bit of depth to the squad especially with ACoN coming up in January which could hit them quite hard.
So it couldn't be the same situation where if you don't feel wanted, which Agger probably doesn't since he has a price tag well advertised, he will feel much like Gerrard did when he was off to Chelsea in 05?
Some people can't understand that there is more than one scenario here, and not just Agger for sale at right price and he'll happily go, he could feel betrayed by LFC for sticking a price tag on him and using him as a barter tool so freely.
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I've read the first sentence a few times and I still can't work out what you're saying.
If Agger wants to stay then he will stay. Look at Carroll for example, the club in this case are actively trying to sell him but he's (so far) turning down offers to leave.
Near enough every player at near enough every club has a price where the club will be willing to sell - where it makes sense to sell. Liverpool being willing to let Agger talk to City if they offered us huge money is not a slight on Agger and I'd hope and expect he's not as sensitve as you seem to be.
Should Liverpool have felt betrayed by Agger when a few years back he and his agent were all but threatening to buyout the last 2 years of his contract during contract negotiations? When it comes to contracts and transfers, both the club and the player look out for themself.
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Purdy that sentence needs commas somewhere. 
open brackets at which and close at advertised and i think what he's saying is that liverpool are making a marketing decision and would let him go, rather than thinking how important he is and thus i too can understand why agger may feel a little 'hmm' towards his own club, as he's obviously very happy there. bit like modric, yes, he's important, yes, he has a price but as i and other spurs fans can clearly see, he has no love for spurs, more a case of simply doing his job.
carroll can't be compared to agger, as agger has the opportunity and interest from probable favourites for the title, carroll has got interest from west ham.
In that case it depends who Agger is talking about when he says he loves the club, the fans? the players? the coaching staff? people that basically have no bearing on whether Liverpool accept the bid. Or the men in suits making these decisions? And give over he might feel unwanted, the club have already rejected some massive offers for him, it's perfectly clear how much they value him.
Btw, Gerrard ended up staying, because he wanted to
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Btw, Gerrard ended up staying, because he wanted to
.But that's exactly why the two can be compared, the excuse is only made when the buying club is a desirable one. Try flogging them to a club that's a clear step down and how Liverpool make them feel won't come into it, they simply won't go. So again it comes down to if they want to go they go, if they don't they don't.
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well, not entirely. how long's he got left on his contract? modric wanted to go last season, we got offered silly money for him. he's still with us.
while this is probably true the main reason it is the case is because Chelsea especially finished below NUFC and have already spent megabucks ( and even if CFC fail in their lofty targets, its highly unlikely they will finish as low as they did 3 months ago).
taking that out of the equation if NUFC chose to invest circa 15m on two or three additions (which is surely not much more than their EPL prize money) they would be right up there again.
Fixed what I meant and wasn't Agger being side lined back in 09 was that for the rapidly declining Jamie Carragher?
And there is no telling how sensitive players are, look at Gerrard in 05 for example, felt Liverpool preferred the cash to him so was tempted to just go.
And there is no telling how sensitive players are, look at Gerrard in 05 for example, felt Liverpool preferred the cash to him so was tempted to just go.
There is no telling, so why speculate? Just seems like no matter what, if Agger goes to City it will be the clubs fault, not the players. All these possible reasons you're willing to consider, but the most obvious and logical one you won't entertain - Agger might choose to go because he could see it as a step up in his career, both in terms of money and chances of winning trophies. Bizarre.
Wouldn't he be handing in a transfer request then if LFC are holding out for an offer that isn't coming? Or not get his body tattoo'd? Or the fact he/Gerrard and others have reported he doesn't want to go.
The fact plenty on here aren't willing to entertain this fairly likely scenario is bizarre, right?
Handing in a transfer request would most likely lose him a lot of money, so don't expect that.
Nobody is saying he's not coming accross as if he wants to stay (although he has quite clearly not totally shut the door on a move either). What's being disputed is the suggestion that he can't stay if that's what he wants. We're not talking about £5-10m here, if it takes up to £27m for Liverpool to even allow City to speak to him, he can't be so simple that he doesn't see how much the club value him.
If he goes it's because he wants to, nobody at the club can force him out. I think you're holding one player in higher regard than the club for completely unjustifiable reasons, getting £27m for Agger would be a cracking bit of business for Liverpool
Nobody is saying he's not coming accross as if he wants to stay (although he has quite clearly not totally shut the door on a move either). What's being disputed is the suggestion that he can't stay if that's what he wants. We're not talking about £5-10m here, if it takes up to £27m for Liverpool to even allow City to speak to him, he can't be so simple that he doesn't see how much the club value him.
If he goes it's because he wants to, nobody at the club can force him out. I think you're holding one player in higher regard than the club for completely unjustifiable reasons, getting £27m for Agger would be a cracking bit of business for Liverpool
Everton hope to secure M'Baye Niang's signature in £6m deal
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/aug/13/everton-mbaye-niang-target?newsfeed=true
Alan Nixon reckons he's already in Liverpool says he's been to a few other PL clubs since arriving in the UK at the weekend, but EFC seems like a better option.... snatching him from under Spurs nose.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/aug/13/everton-mbaye-niang-target?newsfeed=true
Alan Nixon reckons he's already in Liverpool says he's been to a few other PL clubs since arriving in the UK at the weekend, but EFC seems like a better option.... snatching him from under Spurs nose.
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