...is this too cheap or what? (RS6)

The Running Man said:
I can think of numerous cars that are engine out for certain jobs i.e cambelts, turbos etc.

Bilstein coilover kit 700 quid. I think you are over exaggerating the costs. Sure if you stick rigidly to oe parts then some will be quite dear.

Lsd / new gearbox on any car us expensive and could be engine out. Im pretty sure cars like celica/supra etc would have not dissimilar costs tbh.
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Why are you arguing with people over running cost when they've owned the car in question and you haven't?

The turbos for example are 1k each so that's 2k before you've even started.

If you bother to look on the internet for other people who have owned these they will tell you a similar story.
 
The Running Man said:
I think you are over exaggerating the costs.
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No, I'm not. Why would I?

The Running Man said:
Im pretty sure cars like celica/supra etc would have not dissimilar costs tbh.
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These are not the 7-10 year old cars you mentioned earlier. You evidently have no idea what an RS6 costs to run.

You should buy the one in the OP if you think you can run it like an old Celica/Supra.
 
The Running Man said:
I can think of numerous cars that are engine out for certain jobs i.e cambelts, turbos etc.

Bilstein coilover kit 700 quid. I think you are over exaggerating the costs. Sure if you stick rigidly to oe parts then some will be quite dear.

Lsd / new gearbox on any car us expensive and could be engine out. Im pretty sure cars like celica/supra etc would have not dissimilar costs tbh.
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You're comparing runnings costs of a Celica or a Supra to that of an RS6?

Hahahahahaha, that is ridiculous!
 
The Running Man said:
I can think of numerous cars that are engine out for certain jobs i.e cambelts, turbos etc.

Bilstein coilover kit 700 quid. I think you are over exaggerating the costs. Sure if you stick rigidly to oe parts then some will be quite dear.

Lsd / new gearbox on any car us expensive and could be engine out. Im pretty sure cars like celica/supra etc would have not dissimilar costs tbh.
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Haha you can buy a whole Supra with working gearbox for like 1k, less for just the box from a breakers yard.

Try buying an RS6 box or engine, ah you gotta go to Audi and pay like 10-20k.

You simply cannot compare these two cars, one is an old classic with plenty of spare parts including engines and gearbox going about and is relatively low-tech so easy to work on.

The RS6 on the other hand is full of technology and has far more to go wrong and not just random monkeys with spanners can work on them, they are a lot more complicated I'd have thought. Plus not so many spare parts easily available, apart from Audi direct at Audi prices!
 
Gibbo said:
Haha you can buy a whole Supra with working gearbox for like 1k, less for just the box from a breakers yard.

Try buying an RS6 box or engine, ah you gotta go to Audi and pay like 10-20k.

You simply cannot compare these two cars, one is an old classic with plenty of spare parts including engines and gearbox going about and is relatively low-tech so easy to work on.

The RS6 on the other hand is full of technology and has far more to go wrong and not just random monkeys with spanners can work on them, they are a lot more complicated I'd have thought. Plus not so many spare parts easily available, apart from Audi direct at Audi prices!
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Sadly his attitude is not uncommon. Infact it's shared by almost everyone stupid enough to buy a car like an RS6 once they hit the bottom of the market. They all think that and most of them are the sort who 'get bored' with a car after 30 seconds so flog it on before it breaks anyway.
 
I'm going to disagree here.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDI-RS6-...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2573a1fa96

Let's see you find a decent Supra Getrag for less than twice that. If you get the engine and box checked out by a specialist, you are handy with spanners and can get access to the correct documentation I think you could run one for a reasonable outlay.

It's not Celica cheap but its not proper exotic running costs by any stretch.
 
The turbos for example are 1k each so that's 2k before you've even started.
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Show me a car where a refurb turbo isnt 1k? Madness, but whether you drive a supra, MR2, celica or whatever, the trubo recon is about a grand a time everytime. Sometimes a couple hundred under, sometimes over. If you upgrade like most Supra drivers will and get some HKS turbo on there then the differences wont be huge. Infact anyone who drives a modded car will already spend not too dissimilar amounts for parts than the audi ones anyway/

Gibbo
Try buying an RS6 box or engine, ah you gotta go to Audi and pay like 10-20k.
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Agree, if the engine grenades itself, or if the gearbox tears itself apart im sure they arent cheap. But are there 'written off' RS6's out there. there must be somewhere/// you can equally buy one from 2nd hand if you look hard enough? True its not as common as 1.6 focus engine.

Im sure i was told the price of a rebuild for a 2JZ 5 grand roughly. yes the RS6 is bigger engined and more costly no doubt, but really apart from the actual block itself im not totally convinced that the costs are so materially different from a car like i described.

Im also not suggesting to cut corners, but someone mentioned costly suspension. I take it no one has heard of Celica's with SSS? I say throw some bilstein coilvers on it. turbo blows? Dont go to audi, go to turbotechnics and get a recon unit.

And youd expect that being a premium much NEWER car like an audi, that the engine isnt going to grenade itself like you might expect a 15 year old 2JZ?
 
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In this thread: People disagree with RS6 owners about running an RS6 because 'A Supra box costs money too'

I say throw some bilstein coilvers on it.
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Much of what makes an RS6 so good is its already excellent electronic suspension system. Why would you want to throw some coilovers on it?

And youd expect that being a premium much NEWER car like an audi, that the engine isnt going to grenade itself like you might expect a 15 year old 2JZ?
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lololol did you actually just say that?

And 'Much newer'? The RS6 came out over 10 years ago and is a development of a car released 15 years ago!

It is incomparable to a Toyota Celica running costs wise.
 
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The Running Man said:
Show me a car where a refurb turbo isnt 1k? Madness, but whether you drive a supra, MR2, celica or whatever, the trubo recon is about a grand a time everytime. Sometimes a couple hundred under, sometimes over. If you upgrade like most Supra drivers will and get some HKS turbo on there then the differences wont be huge. Infact anyone who drives a modded car will already spend not too dissimilar amounts for parts than the audi ones anyway/
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As it happens, I've just purchased a brand new Borg Warner turbo for my 1.8t, it cost just over £600, to recon mine it would have been a few 100.

So I've no idea what you're banging on about.
 
It comes down to if you really have to ask then you cannot afford to run one.

If you can stick £5k in an account for when something goes then go for it.

At the end of the day when you then sell if your lucky you might have the 5k left
 
I thought the one in the advert was an 02/03 which is clearly the car im talking about.

Why coilovers? Someone mentioned the suspension costs to fix. My point is you can go with plan b and get coily for under a gran. So the expensive suspension argument is flawed in some respects.

The 2jz is probably ten years older in design if not more so than the rs6...so im not sure where you are taking this argument.
 
The Running Man said:
I thought the one in the advert was an 02/03 which is clearly the car im talking about.
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So? It's a decade old and a derivative of a car introduced in 1997. You are trying to make out like a 95 Toyota is super old and ancient yet a 2002 Audi is somehow ultra modern and box fresh?

Why coilovers? Someone mentioned the suspension costs to fix. My point is you can go with plan b and get coily for under a gran. So the expensive suspension argument is flawed in some respects.
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Why buy an RS6 in the first place then if you'd just run to the bodge (Yes, bodge - I don't care who makes them but stripping out the RS6's excellent electronic system to whack on some coilovers is a bodge) as soon as the suspension gives issues? The way its suspension works is part of the appeal. The fact it's an enormous, luxurious, ultra-refined, cossetting super-estate with a fantastic cruising ability, excellent ride quality yet massive, massive performance is the entire point. You don't fit coilovers to a car like that!!
 
paradigm said:
My Leon Cupra R and my E46 330d both had replacement turbos at about half that.

Hell, my Leon Cupra R had a replacement ENGINE (inc turbo and ancillaries), for less than £1100.
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My bad, it was the other guy who said a grand i thought that was the cost but its actually not for an RS6 either.

Looky what i found for 600 quid, 2 brand new RS6 turbos..

http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/300655124989?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&cbt=y

So? It's a decade old and a derivative of a car introduced in 1997. You are trying to make out like a 95 Toyota is super old and ancient yet a 2002 Audi is somehow ultra modern and box fresh?
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Strawman? Those are absolutely your words and not mine. My point is a Supra will likely be a 15-20 year old vehicle. the vecile in question here is 10 years max.

Id have thought that an extra years of a particular cars engine lifepsan will inherantly make it more prone to failure. Thats just the way things are.

The fact it's an enormous, luxurious, ultra-refined, cossetting super-estate with a fantastic cruising ability, excellent ride quality yet massive, massive performance is the entire point. You don't fit coilovers to a car like that!!
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But you could, if you wanted. You are stating quite firmly that the car has these $$$$ costs to run, im giving you genuine options that allow the car to still be run, for a much lower cost than you are making out.

Firestar_3x said:
As it happens, I've just purchased a brand new Borg Warner turbo for my 1.8t, it cost just over £600, to recon mine it would have been a few 100.

So I've no idea what you're banging on about.
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Fair enough i over estimated. But if you arent sure what im banging on about and i was only 40% off with a guess on the cost, well what the hell were you on about when you posted this?

[DANG the bay advert has just been removed but anyway it was for 2x brand new K04 RS6 turbos for 600 quid. $999.

Firestar_3x said:
Why are you arguing with people over running cost when they've owned the car in question and you haven't?

The turbos for example are 1k each so that's 2k before you've even started.

If you bother to look on the internet for other people who have owned these they will tell you a similar story.
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Though ebay ive just saved you 1400. you can thank me later
 
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The Running Man said:
My bad, it was the other guy who said a grand i thought that was the cost but its actually not for an RS6 either.

Looky what i found for 600 quid, 2 brand new RS6 turbos..

http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/300655124989?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&cbt=y
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+ Import duty
+ Fees
+ VAT on above

Who even makes them anyway?!

Please, tell us more about how an RS6 costs no more to run than a Toyota Celica.

But you could, if you wanted. You are stating quite firmly that the car has these $$$$ costs to run, im giving you genuine options that allow the car to still be run, for a much lower cost than you are making out.
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I'd kinda ruled out '****ing the car up' as a credible alternative to running it properly.
 
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