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I think Dempsey is a good player and would do very well at Liverpool. He's just the kind of player they need really, decent, experienced, consistent, etc.
 
Dempsey would do well for us if we got the people were linked with and agger stays this would be my choice personally for us to line up with.

Reina
Johnson/Agger/Skrtel/Enrique
Allen/Lucas/Sahin
Gerrard/Borini/Suarez

Dempsey would obviusly interchange as Gerrard cant last a full season anymore will most likely be injured at some point
 
The never injured Frank Lampard doesn't fare that much better than Van Persie -

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/players/1491/frank_lampard_injury.html

And as for the ever present John Terry :p -

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/players/1489/john_terry_injury.html

I'm not saying RvP hasn't been susceptible to niggles over the years, but I think once you're labelled injury prone it's a tag that's very difficult to shake, while other players with sometimes longer injury histories don't come under the same criticism.
 
but rvp injuries tend to be long term ones thats the key

other players may pick up more injuries but they dont tend to have long lay off's like he does
 
hope barca up there interest in song, could get a very nice sum for him then get sum fresh legs.

talk of us sabotaging liverpools bid to sign sahin lol!
 
The_One said:
but rvp injuries tend to be long term ones thats the key

other players may pick up more injuries but they dont tend to have long lay off's like he does
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Is that really the case though? His injuries seem to be month to month just the same as anyone else. Looks at the gaps between injuries, the longest ones are off season.
 
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God I hope so!!

From what I've read though Real's preference is to send him to someone not in the UCL thus not a rival
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Apparantly thats one of reasons and if to be belived but again im very skeptical about us getting him is that its partly as Alonso/Mourhino think he would be better off under Rodgers and Mourinho doesnt really like Wenger either

All probably not true other than Alonso pushing for us that bit i can beleave
 
Apparently arsenal were after a loan and then buy option which Real weren't keen on. We're just going for a straight loan, also heard we were offering to pay more of his wages too.
 
It does sound as if Arsenal are going in for Sahin now that Song looks to be leaving.

Sahin would most likely prefer Arsenal.
 
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The never injured Frank Lampard doesn't fare that much better than Van Persie -

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/players/1491/frank_lampard_injury.html

And as for the ever present John Terry :p -

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/players/1489/john_terry_injury.html

I'm not saying RvP hasn't been susceptible to niggles over the years, but I think once you're labelled injury prone it's a tag that's very difficult to shake, while other players with sometimes longer injury histories don't come under the same criticism.
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Yes and no, I've been saying for a long time RVP isn't really injury prone, he's had 3 -4 pretty long outages of which all came from on the field tackles doing something pretty bad, and most of them were badly treated.

However physioroom is useless in determining this. If you look at Lampards 2010/11 season, he got a "proper" injury in August, came out of a game and didn't play from August till December, he got an injury on the 19th and 24th of Jan according to that but he played the game on the 15th, missed the one game on the 24th, against Bolton, played a cup game against Everton on the 29th, played against Sunderland on the 1st and played against Liverpool on the 6th.

So he missed one game which considering his return from an injury AND the quick sequence of games together, and the quality of opponents, Bolton missed and played Everton in a more important cup game, you'd likely rest him for that game anyway.

This all ignores the whole, managers claiming someone is injured when they are not as an excuse to not play them, mind games, an "injury" merely being a minor twinge that sometimes you play through sometimes you take added precaution and rest them to avoid an injury.

Imagine if each of the listed injuries 9/10 of them are just a precaution to prevent real injury, while RVP's is all serious injuries because he wasn't rested when he had a niggle, no injury was reported, and it developed into a full blown injury.

Basically those lists mean next to nothing without saying the length of time someone missed. Rooney has one of the longest lists of anyone.

Look at RVP's most serious injury season, his ankle in 2010/11 season also. It claims he was injured on the 8th, 22nd and 28th of February, want to he played games around these so called injuries?

Newcastle on the 5th, Wolves the 12, Barcelona on the 16th, missed stoke on the 23rd, played Brum in the cup final on the 27th, missed Sunderland on the 5th and played Barca on the 8th.

Three "injuries" and when you look at it, he missed the game before the cup final, and the game before Barca away.... shocking. Anyone with a brain would have rested him before both games anyway. he did infact take a knock in the cup final as he scored his goal.

He scored 2 at Newcastle, 2 at Wolves, one at Barca, 1 at Brum, and was good but ultimately couldn't do much against Barca away as we were torn apart. Ever think that when a player has a "minor niggle" it becomes a good excuse for the manager to keep a larger squad happy while also making his first team star feel like he's being protected as opposed to put in danger?

Half of these injuries listed could be played through, most of them are played with anyway, just sometimes a manager rests a player, uses an excuse and it becomes an "official" injury.

INjury for me is something that flat out prevents a player from playing for multiple games in a row, Lampard has had that one issue for a few months a couple years ago and a phenomenal record apart from that. Rooney has hundreds of the little niggles, but only a couple real injuries, RVP has had his fair share of real injuries but almost all obtained from bad tackles and he's come back at his best, in great form, with no constant niggles causing a half season extra to be missed.

Rosicky gets minor "injuries" that keep him out for half a season, and he constantly gets new month long lay offs, RVP isn't and has never had that kind of problem.
 
Jarvis 9m? Fletcher 14m? Rodriguez 8m? Matt Phillips 6m?

Snodgrass 3.5m?

We really do suck as a selling club, Gradel, Beckford, Howson, Johnson all left for near nothing. Pathetic really. Granted their contracts expiring come into context (Snoddy's) definitely but still ridiculous how we get in this position.
 
Andybtsn said:
We really do suck as a selling club, Gradel, Beckford, Howson, Johnson all left for near nothing. Pathetic really. Granted their contracts expiring come into context (Snoddy's) definitely but still ridiculous how we get in this position.
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We're worse than Leeds Andy. Only £500K for Vaz Te and just over £1M for Butterfield... no where near market value.
 
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