Son's Maths teacher openly discussed his exam results with the classroom
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If it really is the case that he has been doing well up until that 1 exam then I think OP should go talk to the teacher and evaluate his work up to that point and if it's up to snuff, give him a second chance in the credit class. If he gets a 3 the next time he can hardly complain.
The social science exams are one of the 'pick three of the eight questions' forms IIRC which gives some scope to teach certain things and not others. Sounds like a poor teacher though, I'd have thought everything should be covered. The only time picking and choosing would be apt is if NABs were selected by teachers but I'm not sure about that.
Quite unusual situation, if the class numbers were the same from 4th year going into 5th.
Not in 5th year you can't.
Edit - Clarifying this with a history teacher.
Your about 10 when your in year 5...
Unless you mean Year 11, and yes you can take a lower level exam which is capped at a C, this is only for maths though I believe.
I'm not sure if that's what has happened with the OP's son, but that is what happens generally.
That's what the appeal process is for, iirc you should initially approach the teacher for their opinion on the value and potential of any appeal to the SQA.
It has to be a stark underperformance on the day for any appeal to be considered, if the teacher suspects lack of effort or ability then they are very unlikely to consider such a request.
We're discussing the Scottish system here and there is no such thing as a capped Higher. Source - Scottish history teacher.
5th year = year 12.
Ah ok then, ill bug off, since I have no idea
But different exam papers can be taken in the English system.
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I hardly think they are going to drop him a level for performing bad in an exam. He got 1's the whole of the year and then go a three in the exam. Harsh class lol
Seriously, either one of you are deluded about his real results throughout the year or you simply go to his teacher and explain he had a bad exam. They wouldnt drop him for one exam.
Ah ok then, ill bug off, since I have no idea
But different exam papers can be taken in the English system.
The systems are quite different. In Scotland, we can go to university after 5th year (12 years of schooling) however our degrees tend to be 4 years (for a BA (Hons)). I actually went to University when I was 16, because the way that the Scottish system works.
Exam wise? I can't even remember, I'll try to find some past papers and look.
Actually we had very good teachers, the composition or grouping of Credit/General - General/Credit etc was down to class organisation as far as I can remember. At standard grade we certainly covered different topics, possibly higher, which would make sense with your question choice paper assertion. I know they done Russia, and I can't for the life of me remember what we did that they didn't.
I'll have a look back at past paper and speak to friends, but the two classes were essentially kept intact with same relevent teachers going into 5th year - less those who did not pick to study the Higher obviously.
I actually bumped into my history teacher in Sainsbury's a few weeks ago. Scary how he hadn't changed much in 15 years.
The systems are quite different. In Scotland, we can go to university after 5th year (12 years of schooling) however our degrees tend to be 4 years (for a BA (Hons)). I actually went to University when I was 16, because the way that the Scottish system works.
My friend went to Edinburgh Uni in 1st year for Maths instead of getting taught 'easy' stuff with us, it can be quite flexible apparently. He's now a crazily qualified civil engineer.
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Im interested to the reason people are suggesting its against the DPA, if that was the case then he wouldn't be able to tell his parents the results as you don't own data held about you thats covered by the DPA!
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I think that's what I'm on about, except there are no papers for it. For all papers they seem to only go back to 2007.
Checking a few subjects for SG G&C, English and so on, they all have the category but no passed papers. I think it's a legacy thing, and they seem to only publish online papers backdated around 5 years for the other single categories.
It would seem that distinction is no longer with us, 'General and Credit' that is. Unless schools still informally organise like that irrespective I couldn't say.
I should have passed papers for the year before my exams somewhere though, I want to see if it was choice.
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What?
We were discussing capped Higher papers, which certainly don't exist. I'm not sure what you're arguing.
General and Credit still exist, and IIRC there were separate papers for each (and also for foundation). Everyone in the year sits General (unless they are very thick!) but you have the Credit or Foundation paper at another time.
Are you saying that there was occasions where you sat one paper which was both general and credit in one?
We were discussing capped Higher papers, which certainly don't exist. I'm not sure what you're arguing.
General and Credit still exist, and IIRC there were separate papers for each (and also for foundation). Everyone in the year sits General (unless they are very thick!) but you have the Credit or Foundation paper at another time.
Are you saying that there was occasions where you sat one paper which was both general and credit in one?
Yeah sorry ignore that quote-context, i just grabbed a post for your attention.
I've no idea what a capped higher is. I remember the Higher Stills, or Advanced Highers as it was as I left I think.
In what way does it exist, is it only for some subjects? I can't find any past papers for it with History and English? Or is that just something with the SQA?
As for what the title of the exam was I can't say, but if there is General and Credit it must relate to a paper?
I need to see past papers for '99 SG's and '00 for Highers.
Yeah sorry ignore that quote-context, i just grabbed a post for your attention.
I've no idea what a capped higher is. I remember the Higher Stills, or Advanced Highers as it was as I left I think.
In what way does it exist, is it only for some subjects? I can't find any past papers for it with History and English? Or is that just something with the SQA?
As for what the title of the exam was I can't say, but if there is General and Credit it must relate to a paper?
Credit History Friday 20th May 2011, 1pm - 2.45 - http://www.sqa.org.uk/pastpapers/papers/papers/2011/SC_History_all_2011.pdf
General History Friday 20th May 10.20 - 11.50.
http://www.sqa.org.uk/pastpapers/papers/papers/2011/SG_History_all_2011.pdf
So, you'd go into school for 10.20 and sit the first paper. Then at 1pm you'd sit the Credit paper.
You do two levels, to get the highest possible mark. In some subjects, I think they have all three levels in one. English Writing would be one example of this.
For Graphic Com, my teachers wanted me to do General & Foundation papers because my drawing ability was terrible. However, I could do the knowledge and intrepretation bits very well. In the end, I sat credit and general and got a 1 for KI and 7 for DA. In the General paper I got a 3 for KI and 7 for DA. They take the highest mark and work out average so I got 1 + 7 for an overall 8. If I had sat the G&F paper I would likely had got a 3 + 7 which would be a 5.
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I think what Ahleckz is driving at is that while at Standard Grade level you sit combined credit/general or general/foundation classes (usually) for Highers you're either in a Highers class (no other split) or you're in an Int 2 (or Int 1?) class - if you do well at Int 2 in one year then you might well sit a Higher in the 6th year rather than Higher then Sixth Year Studies or whatever they call it now (Advanced Highers?).
Yea, this is right. In sixth year you do Advanced Highers (or more Highers). You tend to only be able to do an AH if you've already done the Higher.
The level is:
Int 1
Standard Grade
Int 2
Higher
Advanced Higher.
I have 4 Highers and one Int 2, don'tcha know.
Yes, I'm sure I sat two papers but classes were still split along Credit/General General/Credit lines.
Anyway, I'm now really asking... the single category of 'General and Credit' - from the SQA website - where does it relate to a paper for a subject?
I know that we sat two papers for most if not all subjects, but now that I looked and found what would appear to be described as some sort of joint category/paper "General and Credit" on the SQA website that seems to match our schools organisation of class ability it has me intrigued as to what this past paper option relates too.
Get me? [I hope!]
Are these combined papers or single tests?
Oh, and it's pretty cool seeing a history paper again! If I had the time I might have a go at answering!
/geek