Tyre Prices Make Me Cry

My reference to Troll was more of their day to day activities/approach to life rather than their approach to drivel...but I take your point.

I have been using "Troll" for a number of years now...well before the Twitterati, Facebook etc versions appeared.
 
51 PSI, holy bloody hell! :o

When I go drifting at the pod I run between 50 and 60 psi. The rears will spin up on a dry road in second virtually from rolling at idle with a generous amount of throttle.

Surely 51psi must be like driving on ice?
 
Op, posting that you own a premium vehicle whilst being outraged by tyre costs was asking for criticism.
I'm not sure if the op was intended to provoke a stream of sympathy but from your proclamations that the forum is full of 'little men' as you put it, I kind of get the impression that you were sort of expecting this?

I get your pub chat comment and yes, if you went to the pub to discuss tyre prices then I'm sure you would get a bit of sympathy
But telling a bunch of car enthusiasts that branded/oem standard tyres for a premium German car are too expensive is going to result in the responses you got every time.

If you got a great deal on the car as you pointed out, then take solice in the fact that your saving on the purchase price of the car offsets the cost of new rubber for it.

It's a good lesson for any car buyer really, as weighing up the costs of consumables is an important aspect of car ownership often overlooked at purchase time when costs that are small in comparison (road tax for example) are accounted for as a higher priority.

Out of interest, what vehicle did you own previously?
 
Amazing responses - other people on here who own large 3litre+ 6cylinder+ rear wheel drive monsters have expressed their distaste toward the rising price of tyres. The OP comes along and does the same thing and kablamo, he is shot down.

Tell me I'm wrong.
 
Amazing responses - other people on here who own large 3litre+ 6cylinder+ rear wheel drive monsters have expressed their distaste toward the rising price of tyres. The OP comes along and does the same thing and kablamo, he is shot down.

Tell me I'm wrong.

Expressing distaste is one thing when you know what you're getting into when you purchase such a car.

Purchasing a car and then crying about the cost of tyres is a lesson in "look before you leap"...
 
Expressing distaste is one thing when you know what you're getting into when you purchase such a car.

Purchasing a car and then crying about the cost of tyres is a lesson in "look before you leap"...

Come off it, just because someone has a flash car doesn't mean they loose their entitlement to cry about the cost of tyres. If they couldn't afford the cost of tyres then that'd be a different thing all together and would need a lesson in "look before you leap".
 
Part of the problem with buying nice cars on the second hand market is that previous owners purchase the cars without realising the costs involved in running them and then don't look after them. This might explain the negative reaction because it causes issues buying nicer second hand cars for forum users and enthusiasts.
 
Op, posting that you own a premium vehicle whilst being outraged by tyre costs was asking for criticism.
I'm not sure if the op was intended to provoke a stream of sympathy but from your proclamations that the forum is full of 'little men' as you put it, I kind of get the impression that you were sort of expecting this?

I get your pub chat comment and yes, if you went to the pub to discuss tyre prices then I'm sure you would get a bit of sympathy
But telling a bunch of car enthusiasts that branded/oem standard tyres for a premium German car are too expensive is going to result in the responses you got every time.

If you got a great deal on the car as you pointed out, then take solice in the fact that your saving on the purchase price of the car offsets the cost of new rubber for it.

It's a good lesson for any car buyer really, as weighing up the costs of consumables is an important aspect of car ownership often overlooked at purchase time when costs that are small in comparison (road tax for example) are accounted for as a higher priority.

Out of interest, what vehicle did you own previously?
Listen - Get off the Forum High Horse and read everything I said and the tone of it all.

"Just had kittens at cost of tyres! :-( Going to start saving now...."

Does that say "OMG I CANT BELIVE I NEED TO SPEND £400/CORNER ON A TYRE WHYYYYYYAAAAAA OH WHYYYYY, THATS SO UNFAIR AGHGHGGH"

No it dosent.

It is a friendly "just had a look at tyre costs and they were more than I was expecting, best start saving oh can anyone advise on PSI"

Think I have clearly said a few times now that I wasn't expecting them to be cheap and hadn't checked as I knew the ball park they would be roughly in and it wouldn't have stopped me buying the car.

I wasn't looking for sympathy or for someone to agree with me - I was simply stating that I don't think some of the responses I got were very fair or worthwhile and dare I say it - Relevant given what I was saying/asking and the tone I said it in - People just wanted to share their opinion about a situation/approach that I wasn't involved in and didn't take - What has being a car enthusiast got to do with good manners and decent conversation? Was I Saying X car is better than Y Car with X car clearly being rubbish? Was I trying to tell a car enthusiast they are wrong about something I clearly have no clue/valid experience of?

When picking the car I looked to get the best deal I could (which I think I did) - I bought a diesel due to the miles I do etc - But I didnt sit down and analysis oil prices in past 10 years and next 3/4 years when I will have the car.

Just like I knew tyres may be a little more expensive due to increase in rim size etc...but now having looked into them I think you pay an added premium for them.

But they are what they are and shouldn't have to worry about it for next 20,000 miles if I behave myself - Did just dawn on me that I may need to replace all 4 since its Quattro, is that the case or one of these Urban myths?

Come off it, just because someone has a flash car doesn't mean they loose their entitlement to cry about the cost of tyres. If they couldn't afford the cost of tyres then that'd be a different thing all together and would need a lesson in "look before you leap".
What I was trying to saying but put far more concisely! :-)

Part of the problem with buying nice cars on the second hand market is that previous owners purchase the cars without realising the costs involved in running them and then don't look after them. This might explain the negative reaction because it causes issues buying nicer second hand cars for forum users and enthusiasts.
Think you are giving people too much credit
 
Come off it, just because someone has a flash car doesn't mean they loose their entitlement to cry about the cost of tyres. If they couldn't afford the cost of tyres then that'd be a different thing all together and would need a lesson in "look before you leap".

I know what you mean but there are two clear scenarios here:

Scenario A: Guy buys performance car knowing it'll cost £500 a tyre. Buys car anyway having assessed the impact of the running costs on his ownership experience, thinks tyre prices are ridiculous.

Scenario B: Guy buys performance car without looking into the cost of tyres for it. Shocked at £500 a tyre costs. Thinks to himself "got to start saving up now" in order to be able to run the car. Thinks tyre prices are ridiculous.

Both parties are still entitled to cry into their cornflakes about the cost of tyres but if you can't see the difference between those two scenarios then, well, I give up.
 
good post, too many people pick apart every aspect of a purchase.

like.

I agree, too many nitpickers on this site lately, for nitpicking sake, it's his money, he can do what the hell he likes with it.

Truthfully, how many of you would not buy the car you wanted because of the size of the tyres it needed? I doubt it would stop any of you. It's tedious reading sme of the crap on these forums these days.
 
Motors. Where opinions aren't allowed without massive amounts of citation and you can't whinge about anything googable or think aloud.
 
I know what you mean but there are two clear scenarios here:

Scenario A: Guy buys performance car knowing it'll cost £500 a tyre. Buys car anyway having assessed the impact of the running costs on his ownership experience, thinks tyre prices are ridiculous.

Scenario B: Guy buys performance car without looking into the cost of tyres for it. Shocked at £500 a tyre costs. Thinks to himself "got to start saving up now" in order to be able to run the car. Thinks tyre prices are ridiculous.

Both parties are still entitled to cry into their cornflakes about the cost of tyres but if you can't see the difference between those two scenarios then, well, I give up.
I must have seen 1000 post here where people say "Just bought new car x - Realised I will need to get on first name terms with Girl at Local Garage"....

Yet never seen this sort of replies to them - Its taken at face value - Chit chat/bit of a mind dump.

But clearly I need to think about everything I post on here just in case some "car enthusiast" is sitting waiting to be enraged by my approach to living life.

Do you think the A7 is a performance car?
Based on deals etc I was getting it was on similar costs with Audi A6, BMW 5 Series....
Also, I have always had a separate bank account where I stick money into per month for future car stuff - punctures that wreck trye, the odd repair to random vandalism etc, car insurance etc

Dosent mean I can or cant afford the car or didn't put enough "research" into the car...its just common sense if your circumstances allow it.
 
I can never work out why larger rims cause the tyres to be more expensive, after all, there is less rubber xD

It seems every extra inch on the rim adds 50% to the price and 10% for each 10mm of width.
 
But it's the fashion of the moment. Put two cars next to eachother, one with 14" wheels and balloon tyres, the other with 17" wheels and low-profile tyres and you can guarantee which car will get people wanting it.
The fact that it utterly ruins the ride quality too seems lost on a lot of people.
Even me, with my sensible head, would take the car on 20" rims over the one on 17s. It just looks better.

Take my Jag for example, it's got 18s on it at the moment but several people have commented to me that I should get some 20s on there.

This is a funny one.

When buying the Mini people's advice here to anyone whos asked when buying a mini was to make sure it had 17s on doesn't matter if it's a cooper or cooper s, make sure it had 17s.

The cooper s has the sports suspension already, and you can spec sports suspension on the cooper, with the sports suspension AND 17s what small ride comfort you get in a mini is completely destroyed run flats or no. Making the car intolerable to drive over any distance.

But they look good innit?
 
that is a stupid amount of tyre

265/35R20

265 wide tyres are supercar territory. its not like 3.0 of dagagagaga power needs 4x 265 tyres to keep the power in check

What?

265 is far from super car territory, lamborghini I was in a few weeks ago was 335 wide rears.... On my car I just moved from 255 to 265 to try and help out, even with the best tyres on the market if it's damp its not unkown to spin up into third gear with my 350 bhp / 516ft/lb 3.0 dagagagaga.... Fairly sure the 535d is 275 wide?
 
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