Is Microsoft about to make the biggest mistake ever with windows8?

Ill be honest it really is the lack of customisation and look of the whole thing that puts me off. I havent tried 8 and probably wont unless you get full customisation.

Windows 7, built on what people liked and was in no way worse than vista, slower than xp given but benifots overall obvious.

Qindows 8, even if evwntually more functional..not denying this.. Will be a hard sell. Especially distribution wise! Im very confused on that issue..do yoy have to rwinstall old os everytime, its just maybe too different. But as said, for me its the backwards step in terms of ui. I guess a lot of non experts will see it and think

differerwnt .. I dont want
No apparwnt benifits.. I dont want
Doesnt look nice.. I dont want

Buisness it wont really appeal to.

i personnally so not think it will have an easy time outside tablet sales and new pcs from pc world etc, especially with no 'retail' option, which was a huge sucess with win 7, wouldnt hVe got 7 without the offer+retail option

Im no expert..sorry about phone spelling
 
Curious sentiments. You do realise that w7 (and all previous versions) is in fact the least customizable os around? W8 is actually the first os from ms that you can easily customise - just google it. The number of myths and hearsay people are willing to believe about w8 is akin to a witch hunt :rolleyes:

Also, rather succinct (and unusually acute) article: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/16/windows_8_rtm_review/

Don't apologise about phone spelling. Read the rules, get it right. Something either is or is not worth doing.
 
I have to admit, I was fairly anti 8 until the last day or so. I'd briefly played with the consumer preview, then the RC, but I just disliked (as a lot seem to) the whole in-your-face thing that is Metr-odern UI.

Since I installed the Enterprise evaluation however, and given it a bit more of a fair crack, it's not bad at all. I'm still not overly keen on the tablet interface part, but I don't really use it much either. I've pinned my most used bits to the taskbar so only have to venture into the tablet UI on rare occasion.

I do miss the start menu, if only because I used to pin a couple of things there that, for no good reason really, seemed to fit better there than on the taskbar, and I did make use of the search feature in the start menu fairly regularly.

I still find myself hitting the Windows key and going grr when the Metr-odern UI pops up, but other than that and the fact that browsing the network seems much slower (at the moment) with Windows 8, I'm relatively happy. Happy enough that I'll probably buy a copy of the retail upgrade. Can't see me upgrading all 5 machines in the house though, which is what I did with Windows 7.

I saw someone somewhere also say that Vista was a pile of ....

That may have been true when it was originally released, and while I had absolutely zero intention of ever buying it, I did have to use it at my last job. I was responsible for maintaining and distributing 100 laptops that all came with it on. My heart sunk when I saw it, but after beating it into submission, deleting a bunch of registry keys for software the boss had installed on it, and most importantly, installed Service Pack 2, it actually ran fairly well. I still wouldn't buy it or use it if I didn't have to, but it was actually fairly stable at that point.
 
DeathStorm said:
I'm not seeing what customization features you're losing out from earlier version of Windows.

Why exactly is a standardized UI a problem all of a sudden? You were complaining it'll be harder to use across organisations earlier but here you appear to be asking for more fragmentation and implying this ties into an agenda of pushing their own apps.
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I was only sharing my personal opinion about the ui ie I would like it more customizable on my own pc. Even if they added more customization that would not necessarily improve the implementation possibilities in corporate environments. But it may allow for a more customized experience. I am sure they would have some group policy for the start screen anyway, eventually. I was only making the claim that the reason they have the start screen the way it is, is to enable them more control over it.
 
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_Jimlad_ said:
i work for a council in IT as well, we have a full XP network lol - no plans to upgrade :D

don't even ask!
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We started upgrading within a few of months of Win 7 launching. Budget cuts stalled the project whic is no bad thing really as most of our apps are still not Windows 7 compatible.
 
Tablet users will get a great OS in Win8 and desktop users will still have a great OS in Win7, i don't see what the kaffufle is about.
 
NZB said:
Tablet users will get a great OS in Win8 and desktop users will still have a great OS in Win7, i don't see what the kaffufle is about.
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And those who don't mind the changes will have a better desktop OS than Windows 7. Pretty straightforward really, we overthink it sometimes.
 
theheyes said:
Even IF they released a "corporate version" of Windows 8, you have to ask yourself how many businesses would actually choose it over Windows 7?

Most businesses have either just recently migrated to Windows 7 or are still stuck on Windows XP. If you are in the former group, there is no way you would upgrade again so soon. If you are in the latter group, there is a very compelling case to avoid a brand new OS and stick with something that has been out a few years yet still has lots of support time left i.e. Windows 7.

Those things considered, it almost makes the successor to Windows 7 irrelevant for businesses*.

Edit - *business desktops
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Agreed. W7 is finally starting to get some traction in the corporate world and I think it is extremely unlikely we'll see widespread W8 deployment to desktops/laptops.

I can see a situation whereby W8 makes some inroads into the handheld market i.e. corporate IT depts will be happier issuing MS devices due to easier administration. So you will see execs with flashy tablets/phones running W8 but still with the oldschool W7 laptop for deskside work.
 
at the end of the day, im not keen and wont be sticking on my main rig on release as i did with win7. I will however stick it on my laptop and *try* and get used to it.

However taking choice away from people is a massive risk when tried and tested pc buyers are considering apple's and google products. very risky.
 
Here's a bit from a blog I follow

Most people are wondering what the Windows 8 work experience will be like. I rebuilt the PC at work with Windows 8 last week and here are my thoughts:

I am rarely in the UI formerly known as Metro. The tools I use most are Word, Excel, Outlook, an RSS reader, MetroTwit (desktop), Lync, and MSTSC. I have got some Metro apps installed but not nearly as many as I do on my slate PC at home. Conversely, I am almost always in Metro when using the slate PC at home where what I want to do and how I want to do it are very different things.

I have pinned everything I normally used on the task bar. I only had the regular stuff pinned on Windows 7. This compensates for the lack of a Start Menu.

I’ve had no compatibility issues but I don’t do anything exotic with my PCs.

I am using the PC (HP 8200 tower) with a Microsoft touch mouse and a normal HP keyboard. I’m used to the new UI and where to move the mouse. To be honest, the traditional key sequences do most of what I need to flip between things. It’s been a non-disruptive move for me.
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To me that reads that you can work around Metro (eg lack of Start Menu) but then that asks the question - why bother with Metro at all then? Sounds like change for changes sake for a business user (especially a traditional KVM user).

Perhaps Metro will gain a lot more traction in the SME sector once ISVs start to develop for it (ie it becomes a useful tool), though we still have customers with applications that won't even run on x64 Windows 7, so I'm not holding my breath.
 
_Jimlad_ said:
Best quote out of this video is: "How did it get past the quality control"
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Personally I thought they got half the stuff wrong in that video, complaining about advertising in a free weather app really? Regardless they do nicely highlight how clunky metro apps are on desktop where it makes no sense to lose the whole screen outside of a tablet.
 
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