A man caught doing 180mph in a police chase on the M6....!!

PMKeates · 24 Aug 2012 at 13:55

rossk26 said:
at 180mph you are covering 3 miles per minute. 30 metres a second. If something happened anywhere within half a mile ahead of you that gives you 10 seconds to react?

It's not 30 metres per second.

If you are travelling at 180 MPH and someone ahead of you travelling at 70 MPH changes in to your lane, assuming you do absolutely nothing - not even let off the accelerator - you will not hit them for 16 seconds.

If it takes you more than 16 seconds to realise this has happened, then I think that's a problem for you, not me.

rossk26 said:
You've done 180? On public roads?

I have driven at nearly 180 MPH on public roads, yes - lots of people have.

rossk26 said:
Nice attitude, kind of matches your views on road safety

I think my opinion is justified by the fact you can't even make your own arguments.

Blackhawk47 · 24 Aug 2012 at 13:57

PMKeates said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Qe5s4tw6A&#t=1m6s

That Audi is travelling at around 180 MPH from that point of the video. It's pretty uneventful. 100 MPH is comparatively walking pace, and even in the UK you are not travelling appreciably faster than other people, yet it's enough to likely have you banned from driving if caught.

Interesting.

Yeah and look how far and straight you can see down that road. And the lanes look at last 50% than over here. It doesn't bother me that you choose to do in excess of 120mph on a motorway. I just don't it is safe here, tell do you do those sorts of speeds round something like the M621 in the Leeds, thats just crazy.

However if you said you did those speeds on something like the improved bit of road just north of meadowhall (sheffield M1) where you can see dead straight for what seems like 2 miles then I would think you were less crazy.

Whether you want to chance driving illegally or not is up to you.

*stereotypes typical bmw driver*

PMKeates · 24 Aug 2012 at 13:58

Blackhawk47 said:
Yeah and look how far and straight you can see down that road. And the lanes look at last 50% than over here. It doesn't bother me that you choose to do in excess of 120mph on a motorway. I just don't it is safe here, tell do you do those sorts of speeds round something like the M621 in the Leeds, thats just crazy.

However if you said you did those speeds on something like the improved bit of road just north of meadowhall (sheffield M1) where you can see dead straight for what seems like 2 miles then I would think you were less crazy.

Whether you want to chance driving illegally or not is up to you.

*stereotypes typical bmw driver*

There are many, many roads in the UK that are as straight and well made as that road - many better, in fact. By lanes, I assume you mean wider? Definitely not - they will be almost identically sized.

rossk26 · 24 Aug 2012 at 13:59

PMKeates said:
It's not 30 metres per second.

If you are travelling at 180 MPH and someone ahead of your travelling at 70 MPH changes in to your lane, assuming you do absolutely nothing - not even let off the accelerator - you will not hit them for 16 seconds.

If it takes you 16 seconds to realise this his happened, then I think that's a problem for you, not me.I have driven at nearly 180 MPH on public roads, yes - lots of people have.I think my opinion is justified by the fact you can't even make your own arguments.

I never referred to another vehicle doing any kind of speed whatsoever. You could quite easily have a static object (human/animal) appear.

React to that in 10 seconds

180 miles per hour = 3 miles per minute = 4830 metres per minute = 80.5 metres per second.
1/2 miles = 805 metres = 10 seconds.

Your math is as bad as your driving

PMKeates · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:00

rossk26 said:
I never referred to another vehicle doing any kind of speed whatsoever. You could quite easily have a static object (human/animal) appear.

React to that in 10 seconds

180 miles per hour = 3 miles per minute = 1830 metres per minute = 30.5 metres per second.
1/2 miles = 305 metres = 10 seconds.

Your math is as bad as your driving

I'm going to hold this here so everybody can realise that you are, by point of evidence, an idiot.

So we've gone from someone "changing lanes" to a man standing in the outside lane of the motorway? OK...

I don't think we need to debate any further

TomO · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:04

rossk26 said:
at 180mph you are covering 3 miles per minute. 30 metres a second. If something happened anywhere within half a mile ahead of you that gives you 10 seconds to react?

10 seconds to react. What, like 5 times the 2 second rule that is generally advised as a safe gap?

rG-tom · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:05

your ninja editing is as slow as your driving Rossk26

rossk26 · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:05

PMKeates said:
I'm going to hold this here so everybody can realise that you are, by point of evidence, an idiot.

So we've gone from someone "changing lanes" to a man standing in the outside lane of the motorway? OK...

I don't think we need to debate any further

So the only hazard on British roads are cars travelling at 70mph? Good one numpty.

TomO said:
10 seconds to react. What, like 5 times the 2 second rule that is generally advised as a safe gap?

So you can stop from 180>0 in 2 seconds?

rossk26 · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:06

rG-tom said:
your ninja editing is as slow as your driving Rossk26

I missed the 1 off the front of my calculator :mad:

Gaygle · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:06

rG-tom said:
your ninja editing is as slow as your driving Rossk26

Philz0r · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:07

serious question, would you notice a dog in the road half a mile away at 180mph?.

PMKeates · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:08

Probably not, but then a dog on a motorway is going to die - sorry.

rossk26 said:
So the only hazard on British roads are cars travelling at 70mph? Good one numpty.

The stopping distance from 180 MPH is less than a third of a mile, probably a quarter in an RS5. The chances of your encountering a completely stopped object on the motorway, randomly and suddenly, are pretty much nil; people who brake down go to the hard shoulder, and it would be only someone with a death wish or something that is stupid enough it's going to die anyway that would be there.

You could possibly have something that has launched from the other side of the road, but then I wouldn't advocate travelling at 180 MPH in anything but virtually clear conditions in the UK, so you have, as I said earlier, some margin for error, like a clear lane to move in to.

TomO · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:09

rossk26 said:
So the only hazard on British roads are cars travelling at 70mph? Good one numpty.

So you can stop from 180>0 in 2 seconds?

No I can't. Can you stop from 70mph in 2 seconds? No.

Its not meant that you are able to stop in the 2 second gap, its to give you time to REACT.

Back to your earlier misguided point, yes, I could stop from 180mph in less than half a mile.

Gaygle · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:11

Philz0r said:
serious question, would you notice a dog in the road half a mile away at 180mph?.

TBF, i'm not sure where all this 1/2 a mile down the road stuff came from? When i've ever had someone doing stupid in front of me, it doesn't happened 1/2mile down the road, it tends to happen about 20-50 metres in front of me. Which at 70-80mph all it means is that my harsh breaking scares my passengers, i swear a lot at the other driver and give them one hell of a glare when i go past them. At 180mph, I would going through them before my brain even had a chance to fathom what was happening.

And rossk, some people may rightly argue that not using high beams at night is dangerous, so people in glass houses and all that.

Jonnycoupe · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:12

TomO said:
10 seconds to react. What, like 5 times the 2 second rule that is generally advised as a safe gap?

To other moving things going the same speed as you....

rossk26 · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:12

This forum is beyond ridiculous.

No-one bats an eyelid at someone admitting to doing nearly 180mph on British roads, and expressing his views that it's entirely safe to travel at 120+ on a regular basis.

Yet I drive on an unlit road without my high beams on and I'm worse than Hitler. Least I have changed my driving style now, accepted that using high beams is much better on unlit roads.

I genuinely don't understand the logic behind the users of this forum.

Philz0r · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:13

@TomO

but how long does it take you to realise you need to stop in that half mile?

sorry just being pedantic

NathWraith · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:13

All cars should be limited at 70MPH no matter what their power output.

NathWraith · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:13

NathWraith said:
All cars should be limited at 70MPH no matter what their power output.

I am actually kidding

Jonnycoupe · 24 Aug 2012 at 14:14

rossk26 said:
This forum is beyond ridiculous.

No-one bats an eyelid at someone admitting to doing nearly 180mph on British roads, and expressing his views that it's entirely safe to travel at 120+ on a regular basis.

Yet I drive on an unlit road without my high beams on and I'm worse than Hitler. Least I have changed my driving style now, accepted that using high beams is much better on unlit roads.

I genuinely don't understand the logic behind the users of this forum.

Having a head on with someone who misjudged a corner due to inapprpriate lighting and washes out into your side of the road is worse than watching another car bouncing off a motorway concrete divider.... generally speaking