Are you blind? It kicks in and you have a sea of thousands on a hill jumping up and down shouting.
How Clubbing changed the world
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Are you blind? It kicks in and you have a sea of thousands on a hill jumping up and down shouting.
Best years? Now.The clubbing scene is MENTAL at the moment. Nothing like Fabric on a Playaz, Ram or Dub Police night.
Best moment? 4th June 2012, when this happened
You need to go back in time and experience the golden years
You need to go back in time and experience the golden years
For me, these are the golden years. Music has never been so good!
Mmm hmmm. How old are you Shayper? No disrespect intended, just curious on the relationship on your opinion on current music versus age. For me, I feel electronic music is the worse it has ever been. Once a keen supporter of bedroom producers, now I personally feel there are 100s of digital releases each week which cloud the better releases from standing a chance.
Music today, I feel, is more disposable and less memorable. All my opinion of course.
This is true, new tracks come out at such a rate, they are considered old hat within a month of a release, whereas pre-mass-mp3 sales you had tracks being around for months and attaining classic status.
I still enjoy some of the releases these days, but only a handful of what makes up my favourites from each year are likely to still be listened to by me in 10 years times, whereas I have hundreds of tracks from the late 90s early 2000s that I still listen to today.
I'm 20, and I produce and DJ myself so I know how hard it is to get stuff out there. However the standard of production is the best it's been at the moment.
How can you justify that?
The standard of the tools available yes, but if anything the ease of creating music now has created a slurry of uninspired cookie-cutter tracks in all genres.
Yeah, some producers actually put the time and effort in, but it is so easy to churn out a new track every week, many people take a scattergun/quantity approach rather than a focused/quality one.
So the tracks are good from a technical or polished perspective, but lack in terms of depth/soul/creativity.
The standard at the moment isn't great. A lot of the house tracks sound similar and when people like David Guetta get voted number 1 in the world you know there's a problem.
I was at creamfields on the weekend and my standout performances were from Madeon and Nervo. Madeon put so much into his performance and Nervo just had a fresh feel about them and they're incredibly hot girls!
I think many of the big name DJ's now just live of their name and don't actually put much into it like they did when they first started out.
I was at creamfields on the weekend and my standout performances were from Madeon and Nervo. Madeon put so much into his performance and Nervo just had a fresh feel about them and they're incredibly hot girls!
I think many of the big name DJ's now just live of their name and don't actually put much into it like they did when they first started out.
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But I don't listen to those, I listen to stuff I like. I've just gone through my iTunes, and deleted over 3000 cookie cutter tracks.
The music that's still on here is stuff that that I think is awesome. Music is subjective, not objective
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i look back at the hardcore, trance and dnb of the 90's, the prog house of the early 00's and things are nowhere near as creative these days
I kind of agree with what your saying, when I said before, I mean the golden years referring to the actual clubbing/raving side of it and the quality of events/nights and lineup's along with DJ's.
It entirely depends on the style of music though, for instance, Hardhouse the golden years were between 1998 - 2008, after that it started going rapidly downhill and it turned in to quantity rather than quality, the genre turned in to a whole different sound. New sounds are developed though and some older ones reproduced which is cool.
Trance, back in the day has always been brilliant, however trance now is even more better with some even more fantastic producers combined with some much better production technology that was out back in the day.
You still cant beat that classic sound though, and as for the parties/club nights/raves, you cant beat back in the day
. There is too many clubs/events/raves/promoters now trying to save money which is having an impact on the DJ's/producers they book, the line ups that are congered up which is having an effect on the actual event.
Live PA's are taking more of a stance now and DJ's producers that are putting that extra spice in to their sets (IE lots of mixing variations which include beat juggling, chopping and changing lots of tunes in as little time, major sampling with sampling machines and fx not just straight track to track mixing).
Its all about whacking as much in to your set as possible with what ever technology you can get your hands on, there was a brilliant live PA I watched recently with 3 famous hardhouse DJ's, a mixer or two, 2 traktor laptops, 4 decks and multiple sample pads and midi controller, it was intense.
Clubbing/raving for me though was always much better when I first started in 2001 - 2009/10ish, its gone downhill as I said in the last few years but you still get decent events, just no where near as frequent, you kind of have to wait for the line up you were used to back in the day.
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This is where the subjectivity comes in to play.
Trance has been my primary genre for 15 years now, and whilst no other can have the same sort of effect on me, every year that goes by, the number of tracks I really love gets less and less.
Ask me to pick my 5 favourite tracks from 1999, and I would really struggle to pick, ask me to pick my 5 favourites from last year and I could do it easily, and only 3 of them would likely stand the test of time for me over the next 5-10 years...
Maybe it's because I am picky, maybe it's because I have listened to so much of it over so long that more and more start to sound samey, but I just don't have as many track exciting me to level I would like any more. Hell, Call Me Maybe has been a more influential track on me this year than most trance I have heard, lol.
lol yep I hear you, you still have the classic tunes back in the day, but the sounds are so much different, before they were quite basic in terms of drum loops, synths and other elements but some classics. These days I can listen to one Above and Beyond or Armin Van Buuren set I can ping out track after track after track or top euphoric and multielement tunage with some production goodness.
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The sudden rise of male vocals has really put me off the likes of Armin and A&B
But even old tracks could be incredibly complex, which is more of an achievement given the technological differences between then and now.
Matt Darey's remix of Wizards of the Sonic and Hybrid - Finished Symphony, even though produced on positively stone-age equipment compared to what is available today, still have a shine of technical brilliance about them and have way more depth than the majority of trance released today. (I know FS isn't trance, but it is incredibly trancey breaks
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I spend a lot of time trolling through 100's of tracks each week to try and find the gems but it's getting harder,clubbing/DJing has changed a hell of a lot since i started in 1990,the rise of the superstar DJ's needs addressed,the coin these lot get is just silly and pushes up door/drinks prices to the point people simply don't go out as often as they did.
I spend a lot of time trolling through 100's of tracks each week to try and find the gems but it's getting harder,clubbing/DJing has changed a hell of a lot since i started in 1990,the rise of the superstar DJ's needs addressed,the coin these lot get is just silly and pushes up door/drinks prices to the point people simply don't go out as often as they did.
Unfortunatly they do sometimes sell themselfs out, however, you sometimes get the odd brand which are run by true and I mean true and passionate people who are in to the scene and not for huge $$, those are the good ones. Im sure every genre of dance music has that one brand that always delivers an epic event.
He is without doubt the best drum & bass DJ there is, and voted as such around the world
I think 6 hours of him will be insane. Just 6 hours of the best drum & bass tracks of all time.