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Born_2_Kill_83 said:
I dont see why every-one w**ks over the AEK, surely the SCAR-L is where its at, has the same damage as the AEK less recoil and more muzzle velocity.

http://symthic.com/comparison.php?wep1=SCAR-L&attc1=Heavy+Barrel&wep2=AEK-971&attc2=Heavy+Barrel
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Slow rate of fire... the AEK time to kill is shorter?

Even that link shows the AEK will do ~150% of the damage of the Scar-L

You have to learn to use the AEK to make sure it doesn't spray everywhere... it's by far the best gun in CQ if you know how to use it.

On bigger maps - I would choose the Scar L or Aug A3
 
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Slow rate of fire... the AEK time to kill is shorter?

Even that link shows the AEK will do ~150% of the damage of the Scar-L
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This.
I've not actually used the AEK much tbh, i use the following:
Aug, AN94, ACW-R, M60, M27 IAR, L96 and M417

Needless to say, i have a pretty even class usage.
 
CQ I love playing as support & dropping C4 everywhere... I play it like assault, so am always running to cap the next objective - never hiding waiting to blow someone up... funny how many people call me "noob" for that, when in fact - it's a much harder strategy to use than assault as the weapons are worse for my play style! I usually drop ammo packs on the cap points too, so I can re-arm myself while capping the point.

If I get on one of the "noob" servers where they've banned C4 - then I'll play with assault - usually only go for the AEK if my team are losing - to help gain the lead. It's frustrating the number of people who don't use defibs/med packs :(

Bigger maps - I usually prefer L96/the new sniper (forget name) with 4x scope - again running around... I get really bored "camping" - don't know how others put up with it!

My least played is engineer, unless I fancy some vehicle action (rare).



Too many people try to play this game like counterstrike - it gets quite frustrating when your team sucks, as with most public servers. Ah well, I guess that's why I win so often :p
 
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Born_2_Kill_83 said:
Rate of fire is pointless though if more than 30% of your shots are missing due to high recoil, less recoil, more shots on target, ultimately quicker kill time
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Learn to use the gun :rolleyes:

You play with Scar L vs me with AEK - I'll show you ;)

If you can't control the recoil... then yes, using the AEK is pointless. It's not something you can just start using and be amazing with - you have to get used to countering the recoil. You can get 10-12 shots off in a very tight spot before the spray goes mad, if you haven't killed the enemy in that many shots - then there's something wrong with your accuracy!

The AEK is the best CQ gun - there's no debate about that, it's simple fact. That doesn't make it the easiest gun to use. If you want easy, pick something like the Scar L or Aug - but you will get raped by those who know how to use the AEK.


One of the guys who kicks out a lot of tutorial videos did a good vid on it - I didn't realise how good the gun was before I saw that - I was happy with the scar/aug/m416
 
Born_2_Kill_83 said:
I dont see why every-one w**ks over the AEK, surely the SCAR-L is where its at, has the same damage as the AEK less recoil and more muzzle velocity.

http://symthic.com/comparison.php?wep1=SCAR-L&attc1=Heavy+Barrel&wep2=AEK-971&attc2=Heavy+Barrel
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You will get walked all over by the AEK if you use the SCAR-L on maps like the close quarters.

With the distances so short, the lower TTK of the AEK and its controlability means theres little to match it apart from the M16.

Start engaging each other over the distances you get on say, Operation Firestorm however, and the SCAR-Ls low ROF and low recoil will mean it is the superior gun.

Horses for Courses.

~>Dg<~ said:
id still go with aug :D
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Aug is another great close quarters gun as its a bullpup, so no movement impedement when you ADS with a Kobra / RDS. Very good gun if you find the AEK recoil a bit much.
 
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M16A3 is still the best Assault weapon. Quick reload time, high ROF, low recoil. In experienced hands it bosses - I won >15 rounds in a row on Saturday with it, playing Conquest Large 64P - Caspian, Canals, Seine, Metro, Firestorm, Kharg. Belter.
 
Born_2_Kill_83 said:
I dont see why every-one w**ks over the AEK, surely the SCAR-L is where its at, has the same damage as the AEK less recoil and more muzzle velocity.
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I have strangely just discovered the SCAR L. Did not like it at first but have started using it as it is the only non-maxed assault gun I have.

It is really good!
 
SCAR-Ls biggest draw back is its slow ROF.

If you're playing against people using better guns, you will consistently get outgunned with it on the close quarters map, or in close quarters situations. I tried it for a few rounds and was just consistently getting outgunned with it. Switch to anything else more suitable for close quarters - shotguns, AEK, M16, Aug etc. and i was fine again.

Like i said, its not that the gun is amazing ,its just very good at long range due to its low rate of fire and low recoil.

 
Cant see the point in fighting to counter recoil, you have enough to think about without everytime you shoot pulling your mouse down to the right vertical. I like to run gun drop target - repeat.

AEK = AK47 replacement due to reliability
SCAR = Specialforces Combat Assault Rifle

Which do you think would have the better design/functionality
 
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Born_2_Kill_83 said:
Cant see the point in fighting to counter recoil, you have enough to think about without everytime you shoot pulling your mouse down to the right vertical. I like to run gun drop target - repeat.

AEK = AK47 replacement due to reliability
SCAR = Specialforces Combat Assault Rifle

Which do you think would have the better design/functionality
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this is a computer game. The stats are dreamed up to give each weapon a different characteristic and place in the game.

In real life the US guns are all much of a muchness apparently.

The only downside to the AEK is that its not very good at long range due to its recoil. This has absolutely nothing to do with its name, and just a balancing decision made by DICE.
 
Born_2_Kill_83 said:
Cant see the point in fighting to counter recoil, you have enough to think about without everytime you shoot pulling your mouse down to the right vertical. I like to run gun drop target - repeat.

AEK = AK47 replacement due to reliability
SCAR = Specialforces Combat Assault Rifle

Which do you think would have the better design/functionality
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Some of us have the mental capacity that we don't need to actively "think" about it... you very quickly get used to it ;)

Don't care which has the best design in real life... for close-mid range... the AEK will always win against the SCAR L in the hands of someone who is able to use it... that alone was worth "learning" it.

I don't think about movement at all... I'm only concerned with spotting and tactics when in-game... everything else is effectively muscle memory.

Also - in real life... the AK47 is surprisingly robust - really impressive design - much better than the likes of any M16
 
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