UK government proposes to block all Internet porn as standard

Yeah, maybe they should ban rain too. Think of all those poor children with sniffly noses.

I'm all for controlling access to porn, but banning it outright is completely insane. Completely and utterly up to parents to monitor/filter what their children do online. If they don't/can't/aren't willing then hard cheese tbh.
 
cHk4 said:
Wouldn't a proxy bypass this?
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Yes.

If you want to see the Pirate Bay in Italy, you have to download the free Cocoon on your Firefox browser. It is not difficult and even if you don't download anything, there is a satisfaction that you are somehow annoying the government.
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Or like in Germany... their government made youtube block anything with copyrighted music, so now they all just hop on a proxy.

I really hope this doesn't go through. Why does the public not get to vote on these important issues? I hate this feeling of helplessness.
 
Lysander said:
This isn't just about porn, though. It's about blocking sites like Rapidshare, Megaupload, Mediafire etc altogether.
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That would be totally stupid if they blocked mediafire, I use it all the time to send people large files because e-mail attachments only allow up to 10Mb... :(
 
MikeHunt79 said:
That would be totally stupid if they blocked mediafire, I use it all the time to send people large files because e-mail attachments only allow up to 10Mb... :(
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I'm sure that would end in a law suit? People pay subscriptions to those sites so they can host their files, so both parties wouldn't be too pleased.

I can't see that happening really.
 
If you ask me this is just a first step with the government being able to completely monitor your online activity.

Didn't Labour try and bring something else similar to this in a year or two ago to do with monitoring emails? It feels like political parties have there strings pulled to fit an agenda sometimes.

Dictatorship state anyone?
 
It's all about control. Some countries already store everything you do online. Deciding what people can view and not view is just the next step really.

Those willing to give up liberty for security deserve neither and will lose both
 
gettothechopper said:
wont happen

stuff like this comes up every year :) always turns out to be asshat

people read to much George Orwell
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You'll like this then :)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...bour-has-clowned-around-with-our-freedom.html

Every year, there are 20 or 30 major Acts of Parliament. That is up to 350 substantial pieces of legislation over the past 12 years, each spawning dozens of secondary regulations. Since 1997, the Home Office alone has introduced 60 Bills, launched more than 100 consultation papers, made at least 350 regulations and created an astonishing 271 new offences. In his 10 years as prime minister, Tony Blair presided over more than 3,000 new laws, more than 1,000 of which carried jail terms; Gordon Brown added hundreds more. Labour created new offences at twice the rate of the previous Tory administration, which had been bad enough in this regard.
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You're being a good Ingsoc, the state will be pleased, comrade ;)
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-14845299

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Justine Roberts, co-founder of parenting website Mumsnet, said: "It's more the type and nature of the porn and the fact that it is so hard core. The particular worry is that it skews ideas of what sex is all about."

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He told the inquiry that the industry had been "decimated" by the increase of free online pornography but claimed stories of very young children accidentally discovering sites were mainly "mythical".

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Thats a swing and a miss from both sides then. One side claiming the victorian concept of sex as a taboo isn't already a skew of reality compared to, you know, reality, and the other saying 'la la la it isnt happening!'. I particularly like the porn site owners malapropism of 'mythical'.
 
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This is back and apparently there is 3 days until it gets decided on for good. The opt in to normal internet, where the ISP keep a database of all the people that have full access outside of the great firewall of once Great Britain. Obviously within a matter of months all content deemed illegal will find its way on to the block list. Very similar to the filtering we see on the mobile networks. It won't be long before they start blocking political blogs or websites that offend people. Then I imagine not long before it is just corporate websites and the BBC. :(

http://www.ivpn.net/blog/only-three-days-left-to-protest-uk-porn-filter
 
Where do we go in the event that the sky starts falling, again? I forget...

Phase 1: block porn
Phase 2: ???
Phase 99: total thought control of entire world's population
 
Given that the government's own "public consultation" page blatantly and transparently lies about the proposal, it's clear they're not paying any attention to any dissent.

Why would they? It's carte blanche to censor anything for any reason they like, or no reason at all, while creating a database of potential dissidents (i.e. everyone who opts out of the censorship). Not long after that, they'll be able to simply stop the opt-out and make censorship mandatory for everyone.

Also, of course, numerous other things will be censored unintentionally because blanket censorship filters (especially ones that block entire websites) simply don't work.

Anyone who thinks this is about protecting children is gullible and ignorant. But it'll probably happen because there's nothing to stop it doing so.

I think groen is wrong when he says that eventually people in the UK will only be allowed access to "just corporate websites and the BBC." The main backer and propaganda peddler for this censorship is a Christian group, so Christian websites that they approve of would probably also be allowed as payment for their services.
 
BBC said:
A petition with 110,000 signatures in support of "opt-in" will be delivered to 10 Downing Street, backed by Conservative MP Claire Perry.
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There must be a petition counter to Claire's petition? Search the internet people, I bet we can find a current petition and get it up to 1 million easily! Perhaps get in contact with porn sites and get them to put a banner up for UK people to sign the petition or have porn blocked?

Why can't these stupid people spend less time picketing the government and more time parenting their kids so they aren't exposed to porn in the first place?

Also, good luck blocking porn unless you're going to block 'no filtering' on google too! All you have to do is type a woman's name and you've got porn, there is no way any ISP will be able to block every website instantly.
 
I like the idea.

Here's another one:

Create a "separate but equal" internet for 3rd world countries, isolated from our own one. It would cut down on spam, hackers and other junk considerably. 90% of spam comes from China alone.
 
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