EA loses the plot even further

Omaeka · 6 Sep 2012 at 08:58

Squark said:
Oh balls
Seems like he wants every SP game to be an MMO

What he wrote pretty much sounds like Dark Souls to me, that was a fantastic MMO... oh wait.

Dauthi · 6 Sep 2012 at 09:01

james_2k said:
no way did he say that 'large content updates' by itself was what he was saying.

he wants mp, coop. etc etc

coop that has ruined fear, and (im guessing) will ruin dead space 3. i mean there's no fear when there's two of you. and in single player games when you are forced to take a cpu controlled character with you ala resi evil 5. not cool, not immersive and blatantly merely there to facilitate coop.

I agree it will probably ruin deadspace 3 but if there was horde/survival mode or seperate co-op missions or even a mode where your chasing down the oppent as the reassembleing invunable zombie and you get to choose the monsters to come and turn up and other abilities.

antijoke · 6 Sep 2012 at 10:11

NVM. Phase 1 under way.

Ezah · 6 Sep 2012 at 10:25

Martini1991 said:
So, EA won't release a game they can't milk people for.
What happened to the days of a solid release?

I hate DLC, personally feel it gives them incentive to hold stuff off to then make DLC (ME3's Prothean DLC for example)

That was exactly my thought.. too much emphasis on milking consumers.

I understand the business model, but personally I finish a game and move onto the next, I dont want to go back to it months later to play a couple of hours of DLC.
Also, forcing developers to include MP options for games designed to be SP is just going to lower the quality and increase the development time and price.

What next, monthly fees for all MP games?

=XDC=FluphyBunny · 6 Sep 2012 at 10:56

Bleek said:
I don't think I've owned an EA game for years, to be honest I'd like to try BF3 but with all the negativity around EA and Origin it's genuinely put me off.

Its a good game (NO game is perfect) and I wouldn't let other peoples views prevent me from experiencing it. I don't play as much as I used to but I'm still 100's of hours played.

mmj_uk · 6 Sep 2012 at 11:06

IMO EA will be the first publisher to charge DLC fees for patches.

grimm · 6 Sep 2012 at 11:07

Bah, I wish we could go back to the days when you just bought a game off a shelf in a shop and that was it.

Conscript · 6 Sep 2012 at 11:09

dogmanstaruk said:
Read the quote correctly. He doesn't say that all games must have multplayer. He says that he believes that all games should have the option of some form of connectivity. Be it multiplayer, friend challenges, dlc etc.

As usual whenever EA is mentioned the chest beating commences. I don't see the problem we live in 2012 and connectivity is becoming a major part of our lives.

"What I said was [about not greenlighting] anything that [doesn't have] an online service. You can have a very deep single-player game but it has to have an ongoing content plan for keeping customers engaged beyond what's on the initial disc. I'm not saying deathmatch must come to Mirror's Edge."

Going on previous experience, the bit highlighted in bold looks like EA speak for "it has to have ongoing content that we can keep charging customers for". I don't think EA are interested in offering "connectivity", just being able to make games into continuous revenue streams with DLC.

'Wes · 6 Sep 2012 at 11:10

Conscript said:
Going on previous experience, the bit highlighted in bold looks like EA speak for "it has to have ongoing content that we can keep charging customers for". I don't think EA are interested in offering "connectivity", just being able to make games into continuous revenue streams with DLC.

That's how i read it and it's pretty much what we all know anyway.

Woden · 6 Sep 2012 at 11:15

This would be why ME2 connects to the "Cerburus Network", which provides nothing but a delay for loading the game

Bones · 6 Sep 2012 at 11:49

grimm said:
Bah, I wish we could go back to the days when you just bought a game off a shelf in a shop and that was it.

erm Steam?

james_2k · 6 Sep 2012 at 12:12

yeah steam is good.

and despite what everyone says, i like origin too, its a bit rougher around the edges as its newer but its nice to give steam some competition

StriderX · 6 Sep 2012 at 12:12

Considering EA's already faltering profits.

I am enjoying this lack of evolution.

I will also enjoy as the fact that Vivendi is also wishing its game arm to disappear.

arknor · 6 Sep 2012 at 12:44

Semiskimmed said:
they only want the games to be online enabled and rely on their servers, which they turn off in the near future... but yeah, facepalm indeed

they can sell servers and control mods this way to i mean er stop mods altogether

orderoftheflame · 6 Sep 2012 at 12:44

I think people are jumping the gun and taking out of context a bit.

There's room in almost all genres for some social aspect in single player games. Custom challenges, level editors leaderboards etc.

Take what Telltale have done with The Walking Dead. It's a point and click story driven adventure pretty much, the most single player of single player genres. At the end of a chapter I can compare my choices to everyone else in the world.

He's not saying no more SP games. He's saying SP games will have more to them than just a start and a finish.

Omaeka · 6 Sep 2012 at 12:53

orderoftheflame said:
I think people are jumping the gun and taking out of context a bit.

There's room in almost all genres for some social aspect in single player games. Custom challenges, level editors leaderboards etc.

Take what Telltale have done with The Walking Dead. It's a point and click story driven adventure pretty much, the most single player of single player genres. At the end of a chapter I can compare my choices to everyone else in the world.

He's not saying no more SP games. He's saying SP games will have more to them than just a start and a finish.

Your words are wasted bro, they won't learn.

dogmanstaruk · 6 Sep 2012 at 12:55

Bleek said:
I don't think I've owned an EA game for years, to be honest I'd like to try BF3 but with all the negativity around EA and Origin it's genuinely put me off.

Well that is just being silly. You are missing a fantastic game.

Evilsod · 6 Sep 2012 at 12:57

No matter how you read it it is still pretty obvious that it boils down to 'How can we ensure we make extra money on all our games after the initial sale' and you can be damn sure it won't be in the customers best interest.

Custom challenges? EA Allowing people to create there own content? I'll believe that one when I see it. Leaderboards? Perhaps, though they won't work properly or with any sense of speed. The ones in Bulletstorm are slow as hell. Try getting them to work reliably over dozens of games.

Omaeka · 6 Sep 2012 at 12:59

Evilsod said:
No matter how you read it it is still pretty obvious that it boils down to 'How can we ensure we make extra money on all our games after the initial sale' and you can be damn sure it won't be in the customers best interest.

Custom challenges? EA Allowing people to create there own content? I'll believe that one when I see it. Leaderboards? Perhaps, though they won't work properly or with any sense of speed. The ones in Bulletstorm are slow as hell. Try getting them to work reliably over dozens of games.

Off topic a little, but why the hell did Epic go to EA to publish Bulletstorm? Thanks to Gears and Unreal they are rich as absolute hell, so weird.

dogmanstaruk · 6 Sep 2012 at 12:59

Omaeka said:
Your words are wasted bro, they won't learn.

It is always the same on forums whenever EA are mentioned. People just never listen.

I came to the decision a while back of **** them. If they miss out on genuinely enjoyable games due to a logo on the box then more fool them.

The funny thing is that only video games generates this ridiculous notion. Never do I read about film enthusiasts avoiding a film due to the studio, or distributor. That notion would be ludicrous.