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During October, thousands of people across England are taking part in Stoptober - a new, exciting 28 day challenge to stop smoking.

There's lots of free support to help you along the way - and the great news is that by stopping smoking for 28 days, you are five times more likely to stay smokefree!
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Smoking is NOT Cool!!!

I'm going to join, any forum members want to do the same?
 
scorza said:
Nanny state, government waste, NHS budget needs smokers etc.
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Smoking may not be a human right, but I agree with you in that it should be down to the individual's prerogative. Freedom of will and all that. Same with drinking alcohol and fatty foods. Educating the masses for awareness is fine. Just don't go controlling on what we do. Otherwise, cigs will end up being banned completely, then alcohol, then Mars bars then fresh air.

I work at a local psychiatric hospital and we're going smoke-free from next April. We have inpatients who are sectioned for months, even years. Many of them are smokers and I feel it's wrong taking away one of their few remaining freedoms.

Non-smoker myself.

For those taking part in October though - good luck.
 
When the NHS recognize e-cigarettes as the only reliable way to quit they might have some success. But whilst they continue to deny they exist and push the patches, gum and inhalers which have an awful success rate (which is what their manufacturers actually want so you keep coming back) I don't believe they actually want people to quit at all.

The NHS would be screwed financially too if everyone quit tomorrow and smoker's put in far more than they cost (on average).
 
estebanrey said:
When the NHS recognize e-cigarettes as the only reliable way to quit they might have some success. But whilst they continue to deny they exist and push the patches, gum and inhalers which have an awful success rate (which is what their manufacturers actually want so you keep coming back) I don't believe they actually want people to quit at all.

The NHS would be screwed financially too if everyone quit tomorrow and smoker's put in far more than they cost (on average).
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Only because they die younger, you could argue that if people were around for longer they'd contribute more in taxes than those dying of lung cancer etc.

There is no absolute proof either way, except that smoking is bad for you and that it contributes to taxes. How much and whether the country would be better or worse off financially is pretty much impossible to tell until it happens.
 
estebanrey said:
When the NHS recognize e-cigarettes as the only reliable way to quit they might have some success. But whilst they continue to deny they exist and push the patches, gum and inhalers which have an awful success rate (which is what their manufacturers actually want so you keep coming back) I don't believe they actually want people to quit at all.

The NHS would be screwed financially too if everyone quit tomorrow and smoker's put in far more than they cost (on average).
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they all still contain nicotine, the e-cigs are just as bad for you if you smoked them for the rest of your life, least patches etc wean you off gently
 
Monserrat said:
Smoking may not be a human right, but I agree with you in that it should be down to the individual's prerogative. Freedom of will and all that.
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I don't think there's ever been any question of that.

A lot of people who smoke want to quit. Or at least say they do :p These and similar initiatives are obviously aimed at those wanting to give up.
 
estebanrey said:
When the NHS recognize e-cigarettes as the only reliable way to quit they might have some success. But whilst they continue to deny they exist and push the patches, gum and inhalers which have an awful success rate (which is what their manufacturers actually want so you keep coming back) I don't believe they actually want people to quit at all.

The NHS would be screwed financially too if everyone quit tomorrow and smoker's put in far more than they cost (on average).
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How much of those taxes actually get to the NHS though? If the NHS big-wigs thought people giving up smoking would cripple the NHS, they wouldn't be calling for everyone to quit would they? The NHS already limits treatments depending on cost compared to how much of a difference they can make, so its not too far fetched that they wouldn't spend so much money on getting all and sunder to quit if one smoker pays his way AND that of another person.

MrMoonX said:
they all still contain nicotine, the e-cigs are just as bad for you if you smoked them for the rest of your life, least patches etc wean you off gently
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While nicotine isn't exactly great for you, it's not what does the most damage to smokers. There's a whole host of "stuff" being inhaled that does the majority of it.
 
Halfmad said:
Only because they die younger, you could argue that if people were around for longer they'd contribute more in taxes than those dying of lung cancer etc.
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nope, they turn a 5-8 billion pound profit a year fro mthe tax alone, the fact they die younger is a bonus on top of that.

Of course this profit will decrease rapidly as smokers numbers go down as you still have to care for all the sick ones but get less new revenue.
 
Woden said:
If the NHS big-wigs thought people giving up smoking would cripple the NHS, they wouldn't be calling for everyone to quit would they? .
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Yes, being human beings they probably prefer to have a tighter budget and less corpses and cancer cases than a fatter budget and weeping families.
 
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