The 5:2 diet?
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It's been so many years since i felt hungry i really cannot remmeber the last time. I think it was back when i was a teenager. And what i mean is the physical in the stomach feeling of hunger, not the brian saying you "stuff yourself"
I quite like the idea.
I have to say that if I have any kind of stomach problems I stop eating for at least 24 sometimes 48 hours. I don't lose weight but actually feel fitter the following few days.
I'm interested in the theory behind having rest days and cell repair.
Would the two days need to be consecutive?
I have to say that if I have any kind of stomach problems I stop eating for at least 24 sometimes 48 hours. I don't lose weight but actually feel fitter the following few days.
I'm interested in the theory behind having rest days and cell repair.
Would the two days need to be consecutive?
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Erm, people who practice Ramadan eat and drink everyday after sunset. They don't go without food for two days.
The 2 variations I have heard of are 5:2 and 1:1.
I think 6:1 might not have the desired effect that in that you wouldnt be giving yourself enough time for IGF-1 levels to reduce enough.
That said in terms of getting used to it, leading to 5:2, it might be a good idea!
Yes which was exactly my point about the difficultly about pushing theoretical concepts into real world applications.
The method has theory behind it but there is no real science to say 5:2 is the best way to go is there. Nothing longitudinal at all.
Yup, I know. I was just saying that by not eating all day they will understand how hunger is not a constant, ever increasing, feeling.
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The 'science' behind this seems about as robust as the 'science' behind the five-a-day campaign.
No one pretended that to be the case. I dont assume every little bit of science that gets done in a lab to be an absolute truth in the real world. However, all succesful applications of science have to start there!
What you cant do is blame the concept itself for people misunderstanding it. If I binge on kebabs for 5 days and fast for 2, and I end up worse of, then its not because the '5:2 diet' does not work, its because I was doing something different, due to lack of understanding.
Five a day is just a guide. Its dumbed down 'Eat some bloody fruit you fat b*****d, you need those vitamins and you ain't getting them from your happy meals'
I think it's obvious to everyone that a lot of what afflicts us these days in the west (cancers, diabetes, dementia, mobility) is not normal and is down to our modern environment, this includes pollutants, stress, reduced exercise but also diet.
I don't think it's at all unreasonable to suggest giving the digestive tract a rest day now and then is a bad thing, it almost certainly isn't going to do any harm to skip a couple of meals after a big breakfast.
But yes, anyone who thinks 'easy way to lose weight and still eat like a pig' is a jeremy kyle candidate and obviously doesn't care about their health anyway.
I don't think it's at all unreasonable to suggest giving the digestive tract a rest day now and then is a bad thing, it almost certainly isn't going to do any harm to skip a couple of meals after a big breakfast.
But yes, anyone who thinks 'easy way to lose weight and still eat like a pig' is a jeremy kyle candidate and obviously doesn't care about their health anyway.
Well if you are eating kebabs you probably need to do a 1:6.
Indeed
EDIT: In the defence of kebabs. Kebab is just meat on a stick. You could buy some chicken, dice it, marinade with extra virgin olive oil, fresh lemon juice, fresh herbs, some spices, grill it, and serve on skewers with a side salad. Probably healthier than your average cereal bar.
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I discovered that my daily tuna melt from Pret is already 561 calories 
So including breakfast and an afternoon coffee I am at about 1000 calories. That leaves 1500 available for dinner, and I am pretty sure my average dinner and evening tea is way under that, so I actually think I am consuming below the recommended daily calories for men. But I am 5ft 11" and weigh 72KG, so I think I'm OK.
So including breakfast and an afternoon coffee I am at about 1000 calories. That leaves 1500 available for dinner, and I am pretty sure my average dinner and evening tea is way under that, so I actually think I am consuming below the recommended daily calories for men. But I am 5ft 11" and weigh 72KG, so I think I'm OK.
I would ignore the recommended daily intake for men. It does not take into account your age, your build, your exercise levels, your genetic tendencies (ie were you a well-fed baby), how you make up those calories.
If you are having a varied diet with everything that could be deemed harmful taken in moderation and you are not putting on weight and you don't have issues with excessive fatigue then you are probably doing things correctly for you.
If you are having a varied diet with everything that could be deemed harmful taken in moderation and you are not putting on weight and you don't have issues with excessive fatigue then you are probably doing things correctly for you.
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Well it's not just fat people that need to eat fruit. Anyway the five number is arbitrary and now being abused by food companies. The government would have been better focusing on getting people to eat a balanced and healthy diet.
I had this debate with someone the other day... So I can eat 5,000kcals for 5 days and then each 600 a day... Sounds like I'm going to lose weight.
26,200 kcals if I do that... If I stick to a normal typical 2,500kcal diet I'm on 17,500... Yep I'm going to lose weight on the 5:2 diet. Maybe 5:2 as in low carbs:high carbs would work ( kind of carb cycling diet )
26,200 kcals if I do that... If I stick to a normal typical 2,500kcal diet I'm on 17,500... Yep I'm going to lose weight on the 5:2 diet. Maybe 5:2 as in low carbs:high carbs would work ( kind of carb cycling diet )
Only that 5:2 doesnt mean you binge on the 5. Read the thread. We're going in circles here
