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Drop your prices Nvidia. Please?

Dont you think its also meaningless to compare prices between a premium brand like EVGA to a budget brand with zero customer support like VTX?

The only decent AIBs that AMD have are Gigabyte and MSI, and those are the only I would consider buying / being close to the quality of EVGA.
 
bhavv said:
Dont you think its also meaningless to compare a premium brand like EVGA to a budget brand with zero customer support like VTX?

The only decent AIBs that AMD have are Gigabyte and MSI, and those are the only I would consider buying.
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How do you come to this conclusion? If the others weren't decent enough they wouldn't still be in the market.
 
That's your choice (conveniently). The fairest way is cheapest to cheapest.

Talking of customer support though, I'm under the impression overclockers deal with the warranties for a lot of those brands mentioned for the duration of the warranty.

Where do you draw the line? "I've had bad support from EVGA, so I don't buy them, this is the only brand I'll buy". It doesn't really work like that.
 
Spenty said:
How do you come to this conclusion? If the others weren't decent enough they wouldn't still be in the market.
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http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18231329

http://www.overclock.net/t/348715/ati-nvidia-aib-partner-warranties-and-programs-offers

spoffle said:
The fairest way is cheapest to cheapest.
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Its not fair at all when Nvidia dont have any budget brands like VTX / Powercolor. The fairest way is to compare pricing between brands which make cards for both Nvidia + AMD.
 
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Not getting into this whole ATI VS nvidia crap again.

But HIS and Sapphire are superb (well most of their cards anyway, some cards are pretty crappy with regards to the cooler they use, but again only on a few cards), only one to beat them is MSI when it comes to AMD cards. I agree with powercolour and VTX though.
 
whyscotty said:
You need to check your prices as you can get 680's for less than £380
from here and thats not on offer,

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-176-EA&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=2255

there are others available but can't link rules and all.
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Yeah £380. that's a pretty good price, makes you wonder how the others are selling at £400 - £500.

But It's not £300 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-140-PC&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=938

Or £310 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-144-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=938
 
Spenty said:
That doesn't prove anything. Like I said if the cards were so bad or the warranties the companies wouldn't still be in business.
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I never said the cards were 'bad'. I stated that VTX =/= EVGA level of quality.

VTX was designed primarily as a budget brand division of TUL who also own Powercolour. Their cards are cheaper because they minimize costs during manufacturing and post sale service as much as they can get away with.
 
bhavv said:
I never said the cards were 'bad'. I stated that VTX =/= EVGA level of quality.

VTX was designed primarily as a budget brand division of TUL who also own Powercolour. Their cards are cheaper because they minimize costs during manufacturing and post sale service as much as they can get away with.
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Yet people still buy them and get overclocks equal to the other "superior" brands.
 
Spenty said:
Yet people still buy them and get overclocks equal to the other "superior" brands.
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They would do because overclocking is limited by the GPU and is always down to pot luck regardless of the brand. Its always nice to buy a cheaper product and have it overclock higher. Im simply explaining why VTX are cheaper than other brands, and that they cant really be compared to due to this for price arguments. The custom designs that VTX make are CHEAPER for them to make than a reference design card is, this is why their prices are lower. Other brands like MSI / Gigabyte's custom designs are more expansive to produce than a reference design.
 
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bhavv said:
They would do because overclocking is limited by the GPU and is always down to pot luck regardless of the brand. Its always nice to buy a cheaper product and have it overclock higher. Im simply explaining why VTX are cheaper than other brands, and that they cant really be compared to due to this for price arguments.
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So a card that does the same job as another one with some fancy PCB, cooler and warranty cant be compared? Yet most of the time performs the same...
 
Spenty said:
So a card that does the same job as another one with some fancy PCB, cooler and warranty cant be compared? Yet most of the time performs the same...
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Yes but you miss the point entirely that a lot of people simply dont buy their parts based on performance figures alone. Some people actually want higher quality parts inside their PCs.
 
bhavv said:
Yes but you miss the point entirely that a lot of people simply dont buy their parts based on performance figures alone. Some people actually want higher quality parts inside their PCs.
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It's irrelevant, you're forcing your preferences in to the situation.

In simple terms, the most fair comparison is cheapest to cheapest and stop with the conjecture.
 
Overclocking is not just limited by the GPU, It's also limited by the PCB and the quality of components on it.

The low end cards are generally a straight AMD Reference PCB's, nothing at all wrong with those PCB's, they can reach overclock as high as mine and more.

They just don't have as good coolers on them, often Customised PCB's can also yield slightly higher performance, but not enough to matter.

There is no great advantage going for one costing £40 more, or even £100 more.

They are certainly not under parr by and measure or standard.
 
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