Punishment for cyclists?

I must say, if I engaged in an activity

but for me it isn't an activity but a necessity.
Anybody who comes from Stoke will know the absolute dire parking arrangements for both staff & patients at the hospital and I contribute by not taking up a valuable space.
And now we'll have some idiot posting 'Well find another job then'.
 
See i really don't get this...Theres been like one cyclist in here who has said running red lights is wrong..The rest seem to endlessly try to justify it if done by cyclists :/

While a bike might not do much damage directly when running a red light, the cars that it might cause to swerve most certainly will. Bikes can cause a huge amount of indirect damage when running a red.

I didn't say it wasn't wrong, it's just not as bad as doing it in a car, even when taking into account swerving cars etc. That's why the police sometimes use their discretion when dealing with it.
 
See i really don't get this...Theres been like one cyclist in here who has said running red lights is wrong..The rest seem to endlessly try to justify it if done by cyclists :/

While a bike might not do much damage directly when running a red light, the cars that it might cause to swerve most certainly will. Bikes can cause a huge amount of indirect damage when running a red.

I commute 4 days a week on my bike and I've NEVER run a red light. However there is one left hand turn that is tl controlled and I regularly dismount and walk the bike round the corner and remount and go on my way - totally above board and legal.

I don't however get my knickers in a twist about other cyclists being knobbers - it's not my job to police the roads.

I would certainly support mandatory road cycling safety tests. Something akin to a driving license, one day practical and one day theory.

Why, when 99% of cyclists already hold a driving license?

99% of car drivers don't ride a bike though - therein lies the actual problem.

A cycle isn't a high powered machine that needs training to handle like a motorbike requires. And lets not forget even then a lot of license holders (obtained prior to 2001) can hop on a moped that's capable of scooting everywhere at 30mph without any additional training whatsoever.
 
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I would certainly support mandatory road cycling safety tests. Something akin to a driving license, one day practical and one day theory. It would help those who don't know/who aren't confident/who'd like to ride get the necessary training/information, while stopping those who are ignorant or useless, for the most part, being able to ride. A small badge/notice should be affixed to a bicycle as proof of passing as well as a license - maybe add it to a provisional road license.

Plus people endangering themselves, or others on the road could be held accountable and punished accordingly.

Except it doesn't seem to stop idiot drivers though does it?
 
Why, when 99% of cyclists already hold a driving license?

99% of car drivers don't ride a bike though - therein lies the actual problem.

A cycle isn't a high powered machine that needs training to handle like a motorbike requires. And lets not forget even then a lot of license holders (obtained prior to 2001) can hop on a moped that's capable of scooting everywhere at 30mph without any additional training whatsoever.

It could be added to an existing license.

Possibly. There used to be a bike safety thing when I went to school, I couldn't go unfortunately but it seemed pretty cool. A couple of days of bike training, with a certificate at the end.

Of course, but it's more about road safety as many people seem to be ignorant of the most basic aspects of safe vehicle operation.

Except it doesn't seem to stop idiot drivers though does it?

Not all of them. But it does stop a large amount of them, and the process of attaining a license corrects a lot of people who wouldn't be suitable otherwise.

Plus, you'd be able to hold dangerous cyclists accountable for their riding, which you can do with car/motorcyle drivers.
 
If a driver who rarely exceeded 70mph was on a dual carriageway and seen a cycling doing 70mph (yes of course this is not possible), the driver would speed up and brake the speed limit to overtake the cyclist.

If I'm doing 23mph in a 20mph zone on my bicycle, 90+% of all drivers will overtake.

The other day I was doing 33mph, the speed sign even came on telling me to slow down, but guess what happened? All drivers still zoomed on past me.

It's ok for drivers to go round tight corners and cut across onto the wrong side of the road, but when I go round a tight corner on the outside of my lane towards the white line, oh no it's not ok, car drivers decided to stick two fingers up and give abuse.

You want to indicate to turn right on a bicycle? forget about it, if you persist you might just get run down like I nearly did by a HUGE LORRY!

Want to use a roundabout? If you don't give way to your left you might just get ran over, because drivers don't expect to give way to the right if its a cyclists, a driver once hooted at me because I never GAVE WAY TO MY LEFT!!

I'm having to cycle from Kings Cross to near the Thames Barrier on Tuesday, it's only 9 miles, but with the right turns at junctions it's going to be a bit scary unless the road is just gridlocked, because if I need to get into a second or third lane, I know drivers won't let me over.
 
I don’t think there’s a punishment dreadful enough to hand out to cyclists really. :p

Taking yourself seriously in lycra is punishment enough, really. What's even better is that it is self-inflicted.

If a driver who rarely exceeded 70mph was on a dual carriageway and seen a cycling doing 70mph (yes of course this is not possible), the driver would speed up and brake the speed limit to overtake the cyclist.

If I'm doing 23mph in a 20mph zone on my bicycle, 90+% of all drivers will overtake.

The other day I was doing 33mph, the speed sign even came on telling me to slow down, but guess what happened? All drivers still zoomed on past me.

Your sense of superiority or pious attitude is probably what ****es drivers off more than anything.
 
I commute 4 days a week on my bike and I've NEVER run a red light. However there is one left hand turn that is tl controlled and I regularly dismount and walk the bike round the corner and remount and go on my way - totally above board and legal.

I don't however get my knickers in a twist about other cyclists being knobbers - it's not my job to police the roads.

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If a driver who rarely exceeded 70mph was on a dual carriageway and seen a cycling doing 70mph (yes of course this is not possible), the driver would speed up and brake the speed limit to overtake the cyclist.

If I'm doing 23mph in a 20mph zone on my bicycle, 90+% of all drivers will overtake.

The other day I was doing 33mph, the speed sign even came on telling me to slow down, but guess what happened? All drivers still zoomed on past me.

It's ok for drivers to go round tight corners and cut across onto the wrong side of the road, but when I go round a tight corner on the outside of my lane towards the white line, oh no it's not ok, car drivers decided to stick two fingers up and give abuse.

You want to indicate to turn right on a bicycle? forget about it, if you persist you might just get run down like I nearly did by a HUGE LORRY!

Want to use a roundabout? If you don't give way to your left you might just get ran over, because drivers don't expect to give way to the right if its a cyclists, a driver once hooted at me because I never GAVE WAY TO MY LEFT!!

I'm having to cycle from Kings Cross to near the Thames Barrier on Tuesday, it's only 9 miles, but with the right turns at junctions it's going to be a bit scary unless the road is just gridlocked, because if I need to get into a second or third lane, I know drivers won't let me over.

ohh.. cycling in central london! i probably sweat more from the fact that 90% of drivers are trying to kill me than actually sweat because im exercising lol.
 
Your sense of superiority or pious attitude is probably what ****es drivers off more than anything.

I doubt there is any sense of superiority there, he's just telling it like it is. Whether the overtaking is due to HAVING to overtake a bike or just general speeding is debatable, what isn't is that the majority of drivers break the law daily and it's seen as normal, by breaking the speed limit, especially in 20mph zones.
 
Taking yourself seriously in lycra is punishment enough, really. What's even better is that it is self-inflicted.



Your sense of superiority or pious attitude is probably what ****es drivers off more than anything.

Actually I've deleted my initial reply, it's clear you're just a cyclist hating troll based on the beginning of your post, probably jealous of cyclists more than anything.
 
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