Liquid nitrogen in a drink?

FoxEye said:
Is that miniscule loss of freedom really worth the risk of this happening again? A girl has lost her stomach, for Pete's sake.
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How about flipping it on its head, is the injury to one person worth removing a freedom from 60m+ people.

I am not saying its not a sad story, but there does need to be some perspective here.
 
mehuk said:
Whats the advisory on drinking one of these? Do you have to wait a certain time for the chemical to stop being 'dangerous'? If so, surely a more sensible approach must be taken in serving these things ie pour it, but keep it behind the bar for x minutes and then give to customer?

Not everyone is savvy enough to understand the dangers... I mean especially if drunk anyway.
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true - was her 18th birthday - she might well have downed it in one....

tis still the bar's responsibility tbh...
 
dowie said:
true - was her 18th birthday - she might well have downed it in one....

tis still the bar's responsibility tbh...
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Also likely she might have a had more than a few in a short space of time. In which case, very definitely the bars responsibility.

I think people are missing one of the fundamentals in the situation. That the bar owes a duty of care to it's patrons, she wouldn't have been injured if the bar had fulfilled this duty, no matter how "dangerous" or not the drink is.
 
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bhavv said:
Water in overdoses yes, never knew about the oxygen + toxicity stuff, that wouldnt really be covered in biology.
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Did you not do the development of the eye? I thought they would have covered it during that. Too much water ... well that's just plain nasty - one of the worst ways to die.
 
inogen said:
Also likely she might have a had more than a few in a short space of time. In which case, very definitely the bars responsibility.
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Not at all, it's her responsibility to know when to stop. Yes the bar should also step in and stop her if they deem it necessary, but first and foremost it is always the responsibility of the person to make sure they're not doing something stupid. Or at least if they do, that they won't whine if they get themselves in trouble through it.

Since when did the idea of personal responsibility disappear? Do you really want every single move we make to have to be approved and checked before it's done? Let people make their own choices, but if they do something stupid then the blame is on them.
 
DAnDan said:
Not at all, it's her responsibility to know when to stop. Yes the bar should also step in and stop her if they deem it necessary, but first and foremost it is always the responsibility of the person to make sure they're not doing something stupid. Or at least if they do, that they won't whine if they get themselves in trouble through it.

Since when did the idea of personal responsibility disappear? Do you really want every single move we make to have to be approved and checked before it's done? Let people make their own choices, but if they do something stupid then the blame is on them.
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I think it's reasonable to assume that something I drink from a bar isn't going to make my stomach burst though.

The bar owners will get hammered for this as they've completely broken their legal duty of care they are required to have for their customers.
 
DAnDan said:
Not at all, it's her responsibility to know when to stop. Yes the bar should also step in and stop her if they deem it necessary, but first and foremost it is always the responsibility of the person to make sure they're not doing something stupid. Or at least if they do, that they won't whine if they get themselves in trouble through it.

Since when did the idea of personal responsibility disappear? Do you really want every single move we make to have to be approved and checked before it's done? Let people make their own choices, but if they do something stupid then the blame is on them.
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doesn't work like that - the bar has a legal duty of care.
if they take unnecessary risks with peoples health they are breaking the law.
 
godinman said:
Liquid Nitrogen isn't really a 'toxic' chemical, it's pretty damn inert, but when frozen is, erm...cold. It's like saying snow is a 'toxic chemical' because it gave you frost bite. Stupid mother-****ing *****.
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I was waiting for someone to mention this, congrats.

So basically why does the BBC insert stupid words or phrases in the articles.

'Muffins'

It makes absolutely no sense, and was the point where i stopped reading.
 
cymatty said:
How about flipping it on its head, is the injury to one person worth removing a freedom from 60m+ people.

I am not saying its not a sad story, but there does need to be some perspective here.
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Of those 60m+ people, how many are going to be upset about it?

A lot of us are sat here thinking "why would you do that anyway?", so clearly not all of the 60m+ are going to be opposed.
 
FoxEye said:
Of those 60m+ people, how many are going to be upset about it?

A lot of us are sat here thinking "why would you do that anyway?", so clearly not all of the 60m+ are going to be opposed.
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No not everyone wants to do it, but they should have the choice whether they want to do it or not.
 
norm said:
Really? :rolleyes:

http://www.csb.gov/assets/document/SB-Nitrogen-6-11-03.pdf
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A contractor planned to use an airpowered hammer to chip residue
from a furnace in an aluminum foundry. He wore an airline respirator. Of two compressed gas lines with fittings, one was labeled “natural gas” and the other had an old paper tag attached with “air” handwritten on it. However, this line actually contained pure nitrogen.

A splitter diverted one part of the gas stream to the air hammer and the other part to the airline respirator. Once the respirator was in place, the worker breathed pure nitrogen and was asphyxiated.
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So if you breath in pure nitrogen you will die. Who'ld of thought it.
 
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