Steve Jobs 1 year today tribute on Apple

[williams22]

Great man!! His death is a great loss to technology!!

 

[robgmun]

Wow, look everybody, a typical iSheep who's totally mis-informed about the competition. Let me enlighten you

Personally the reason I like my iPhone is how it just works.

So does any android phone out of the box, so that can't be the real reason

I've had my iPhone 4 for almost 2 years, I still get regular updates (how many 2 year old samsung phones still get updates!?),

I got my Samsung Galaxy S2 over 18 months ago. Since then its had two operating system upgrades Gingerbread to ICS, then ICS to Jelly Bean. And many updates in between.

I can buy a case for it from any store, I can buy a speaker from any store.

Same here.

If I lose it I can remotely find it.

Same here. http://www.samsungdive.com/aboutN/forwardGuideTracker.do

If I can't find it and I get it replaced, or if I upgrade,

Not without insurance i don't think. Which is available to all phones

I switch the new phone on, put in my username and password and wait half an hour and boom, all my settings, apps, messages, everything right up to date exactly as it was before, no faffing, all backed up nightly. Even my alarm clock is still set for the next morning.

Same here. I stick my gmail username and password on boot up and thats all done. 30mins is a bit slow so i tend to turn on the wireless before i start and its all done in 10mins because i'm on virgin BB 50m/b . Ok, i still have to setup my alarm clock, i'll give you that, whoopy-do!

I can sync all my music to it, get my audible audiobooks, and then play it wirelessly in my car over bluetooth or on my TV/HiFI using airplay. After all that my battery lasts all day and I don't have to faf around with task manager apps or battery saver apps.

Google Play...enough said. My S2 lasts 1.5 days doing even more intense stuff franky

That's just the software, for the hardware it's solid glass and stainless steel, not plastic like other phones.

And yet the S2 was much tougher then the Iphone4 which was released at the same time and won a majorty of drop tests on the internet. I always maintained that i've seen way more smashed screens on iPhones then on Andriod phones

I couldn't do half of that on Android without some serious messing around, something I really can't be ***** to do.

Yeah, you better stick to the iPhone then because you can't work anything more complex then my toaster.

My experience with Android is with my gf's phone (HTC Wildfire), it's slow and unresponsive. Last weekend it had a software update, after trying to update it it gave me some techie stuff about low memory, move some apps to SD card?! I have no idea about all that, anyway I eventually get it upgraded and now whenever someone calls her it just rings forever until you pull the battery out. Can you see why people prefer iPhone?

HTC Wildfire, jesus, that's the slowest, crappest phone you can get! That's like trying to compare original Iphone to 2012 standards. Android phone development has been so much quicker then the iphone that 2 years ago they were laughable, now it's the iphone that look dated and backwards. It was basically from the release of the S2 onwards that people took android phones seriously and none of the problems you described wouldn't have happened. I've played around with my S2 and stick in new ROM's just for fun and i've never come across anything as shambolic like that. Probably again because you're blinded by anything that isn't hand-holding you

And no I wasn't zealously defending the maps app, Apple messed up. But people's expectations are way too high, if Apple doesn't blow away the competition then apparently it's ****. It's not a terrible app, i've used it plenty and tbh it's been better than the old app, just personal experience though.

Then they should have waited and not realeased an Alpha to millions of sheep that wouldn't know who to work around it! iOS6 looks old boring and tired, even my gf just shrugged and said there's no difference when she upgraded her iPhone to iOS6. While the leap from GB to ICS on android was a huge step forward.

And do you really think Apple's stuff is a turd? Well built hardware with a solid unix based operating system and excellent support? You must be deluded.

I'll leave you to your delusion

 

[estebanrey]

Personally the reason I like my iPhone is how it just works. I've had my iPhone 4 for almost 2 years, I still get regular updates (how many 2 year old samsung phones still get updates!?), I can buy a case for it from any store, I can buy a speaker from any store. If I lose it I can remotely find it. If I can't find it and I get it replaced, or if I upgrade, I switch the new phone on, put in my username and password and wait half an hour and boom, all my settings, apps, messages, everything right up to date exactly as it was before, no faffing, all backed up nightly. Even my alarm clock is still set for the next morning.

I can sync all my music to it, get my audible audiobooks, and then play it wirelessly in my car over bluetooth or on my TV/HiFI using airplay. After all that my battery lasts all day and I don't have to faf around with task manager apps or battery saver apps.
That's just the software, for the hardware it's solid glass and stainless steel, not plastic like other phones.
I couldn't do half of that on Android without some serious messing around, something I really can't be ***** to do.

Just so you know, almost nothing you mention above can't be done on a decent Android or Windows phone.

 

[Shayper]

Well, I'm selying my Xperia S and buying an iPhone. Why? Because I'm fed up with the stupid amount of crashes, slowdowns and general unusability. Which I didn't have on either of my iPhones. So there.

 

[Firestar_3x]

I'm not sure what's more amusing, the latest batch of iPhone 5 adverts or how butthurt the anti apple people get.

 

[godinman]

Yawn, stop arguing over which mobile phone is better, it's circular and no one is going to go, "Oh, you know what? Yeah, you're right", really, are they? It's all bull****, most high-end smart phones are pretty much as good as each other, it's just some people have irrational hate of 'the other brand'. Ffs, grow up and ****ing shut up.

 

[robgmun]

Butthurt? LOL! It's the other way round i think!! They couldn't release a phone better then the S3, and the Ip5 is about to raped in the next couple of months with the latest batch of phone from google, samsung, HTC and Motorola. And the last good thing about the iPhone, it's screen, is going to get suppased by screens made for android phones that will make retina display look low res!

Also they are releasing the iPad mini, only because they're now following the market and see the Nexus and other 7" tablets doing well. The next 12 months is not going to be good for apple.

 

[Tummy]

A year already?

That year came round too quickly.

 

[iamtheoneneo]

My experience with Android is with my gf's phone (HTC Wildfire), it's slow and unresponsive.

and with that one sweeping statement your entire argument falls down. Wildfire really? £80 vs £600 ok......

as for Steve Jobs, I liked watching his presentations where he came across as kinda likable but the way he ran his company under such strict control and the fact that hes known to be a complete cretin to people means I cant really be sad for him personally.

 

[Yas786]

Yeah, you better stick to the iPhone then because you can't work anything more complex then my toaster.

LMAO ill have to remember that for my iphone friends, which funnily enough has been getting lower and lower as they realise that Apple is soon going to be a dead horse and are making the right switch to Android.

 

[elmarko]

If Steve Jobs didn't give anything of real value to mankind, then neither did Thomas Edison or Philo Farnsworth or Percy Spencer or Braun or Marconi or Jimmy Wales.

He wasn't just a 'tech company CEO', just like Bill Gates wasn't - they were both inventors and innovators.

Wow...

You would put Steve Jobs at the same level as Thomas Edison?.

Commercialising existing technology & having a great marketing team isn't really innovation (at the same level of Edison for example).

You compare what is essentially an entrepreneur (Steve Jobs didn't actually invent anything, his co-founder did) to a group of people who actually invented the items and the principles behind the products that they invented?

If anything the principle innovator and inventor at Apple was Steve Wozniak as he is responsible for the Apple Microcomputers that revolutionised home computing along with the IBM of course and Steve Jobs was an exceptional marketing man and aesthete, he did not contribute to the actual engineering or technical aspects of Apples products.

He certainly did not contribute anything that we can not do without or anything so revolutionary that it has changed the way in which we live.....he didn't invent the microcomputer or the Tablet or the Mobile Phone, he simple designed them a certain way. Those others you mentioned (with the possible exception of Jimmy Wales) invented such things as the Television, Light Bulb and Radio essentially from nothing and contributed in a more fundamental way to how we live, but even then I would not particularly mark their death as being significant, at least not to the extent that Steve Jobs seems to be being canonized by his "followers".

He designed some cool stuff and I think the iPad is a great bit of kit that surpasses all its rivals, and its a shame that he died so young, but that is about the breadth of it for me.

Ahh, you beat me to it!.

 

[B&W]

Well, I'm selying my Xperia S and buying an iPhone. Why? Because I'm fed up with the stupid amount of crashes, slowdowns and general unusability. Which I didn't have on either of my iPhones. So there.

You must be doing something wrong my wife has got the arc s and its been brilliant for the last 10 months or so and that's despite having a widget on the desktop showing previews of hundreds of photos.

Even my old hero that I recently stopped using had no crashes

 

[Hamish]

Tech support by Android users

User: "My Android phone is slow and unresponsive"
Fandroid: "lol you didn't buy that phone did you?! it's rubbish"

User: "My Android phone crashes and is slow and unusable"
Fandroid: "You're doing it wrong, my phone works fine, I just had to root it, upgrade the ROM, turn off this, install that and recompile it"

User: "I like my iPhone"
Fandroid: "You're obviously an idiot who knows nothing about technology. Wake up sheeple!!"

User: "My phone does this which Android doesn't"
Fandroid: "Well android is still better because the Galaxy S4 Pro SE will be out in 6 months and it's got a 10" screen which is a better than your phone as the number is bigger and if you wait 3 months after it comes out you will be possibly able to get the new Android Lemon Bakewell Tart which has all these new features"

*based on actual responses from this thread.

 

[Diagro]

Apple is a bain on socity.

Burn it to the ground

 

[The-Plethora]

Seems odd that such a supposedly smart guy commited suicide by homeopathy.

 

[Gogl]

Apple is a bain on socity.

Surely you mean a

 

[a1ex2001]

Surely you mean a
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Best post in this tiresome thread by miles!

Can't believe a simple RIP has turned into a fanboi flame war, one day everyone will agree that both products are good and have advantages and disadvantages which make them appeal to certain people.

 

[King Damager]

One day everyone will agree that both products are good and have advantages and disadvantages which make them appeal to certain people.

We can dream..

kd

 

[spoffle]

Tech support by Android users

You never asked for technical support, you used a very bad example where you compared a low end Android phone to an expensive iPhone and then used it as a typical experience of Android phones.

User: "My Android phone is slow and unresponsive"
Fandroid: "lol you didn't buy that phone did you?! it's rubbish"

No one actually said that. You compared a cheap arse low end Android phone to an expensive recent iPhone then said "this is how I see Android".

User: "My Android phone crashes and is slow and unusable"
Fandroid: "You're doing it wrong, my phone works fine, I just had to root it, upgrade the ROM, turn off this, install that and recompile it"

No one said anything of the sort, again. You compared a cheap phone to an expensive iPhone.

User: "I like my iPhone"
Fandroid: "You're obviously an idiot who knows nothing about technology. Wake up sheeple!!"

You never simply said you like you iPhone. You made a list of reasons for why you prefer an iPhone over "an android" phone. The reasons you gave weren't valid and didn't apply.

User: "My phone does this which Android doesn't"
Fandroid: "Well android is still better because the Galaxy S4 Pro SE will be out in 6 months and it's got a 10" screen which is a better than your phone as the number is bigger and if you wait 3 months after it comes out you will be possibly able to get the new Android Lemon Bakewell Tart which has all these new features"

You never actually gave a valid list of things your iPhone does that Android phones can't. Everything you listed can be done on an Android phone.

Also no one actually said anything close to what you've suggested.

You've purposefully compared iPhones to low end Android phones because your "examples" wouldn't stand otherwise. Apple are playing catchup with Android now and have been for a while, whether that influences your decision on what to buy is another matter entirely, but realistically it's obvious you're buying iPhones out of habit, you don't really seem to know what you're talking about technology wise.

*based on actual responses from this thread.

Oh look, more lies.

*awaits response of "I know I was [INSERT VERB] based on your complete rebuttal of my fantasy land post".*

 

[spoffle]

Best post in this tiresome thread by miles!

Can't believe a simple RIP has turned into a fanboi flame war

What do you expect? A RIP thread for Steve jobs is initially going to be fully of people accrediting all sorts of nonsense to Steve Jobs. Nonsense about all these things he "invented" or "innovated" both of which he did neither and then laments of how the technology world will never be the same without him, despite the fact that had little to do with actual technological advances.

He was a good business man, a good showman, he knew how to manipulate people in to believing every word he said and he knew how to advertise, that's what he was a master of, advertising and making people want the products his company sells to the point where they might feel left out if they don't have them.

The "reality distortion field" is well documented, but I wish people would give it a rest when they claim he invented/innovated/designed all sorts of stuff. Many many other people designed and invented all the Apple stuff under his direction, the ideas came from other people, not him.

one day everyone will agree that both products are good and have advantages and disadvantages which make them appeal to certain people.

This is incredibly idealistic wishful thinking. It'll never happen, especially not now. The fact is that with iPhones you pay a lot but get less than what you'd get with the competition when it comes to hardware, and iOS is very basic and very limited in functionality in certain areas. So the idea that everyone will agree that they're both "good" isn't really going to happen because frankly, whilst I don't think iPhones are rubbish (well I do a bit but they do look nice) I'll never think that they are actually "good" because to me they always represent poor value for money.

Whether that matters to you or not is another matter all together. My opinion on iPhones has absolutely nothing to do with Android, and is 100% based on extensive usage of iPhones. So whilst I'm being negative about iPhones, I can be completely objective about them at the same time.