Child forced to drink own urine

Do you smack your partner?



How about removing them from whatever situation you considered to be 'extremely dangerous'?



dumb dumb talk for 'im a bad parent who doesn't have a Brian' I'm afraid.

Always remove them from situation, does not stop them getting in that situation over and over again, comment reeks of not knowing raising a child, you won't know until you have one
 
The fact you have to change 'hitting' to 'discipline' should tell you something.

Smacking and hitting aren't the same. If you hit someone that could be a punch, and a hit is normally not administered to the bottom :p

A smack traditionally is using the open hand on a child's backside, where is causes moderate stinging but leaves no mark and does no damage.

A smack is a valid form of discipline, and sometime's it's all a child will respond to, if they've gotten themselves into a tantrum.

Tried talking a child down from a tantrum? Yeah, good luck with that. Children aren't always rational, you know.
 
Oh for gods sake, smacking a child doesn't make a bad parent, this isn't what the thread is about though so high horse or not, take it else where

Morba, I understand your point of view, can you tell me what harm speaking to his teacher in the morning and then referring to police/social services will do? I don't see a bad outcome from that.

unless you do?
 
I wouldn't presume to tell you how to bring up your children...I simply have never needed to smack in order to instill discipline or fear of danger. I just disagee that its needed, rather than making a specific judgement about smacking overall. I certainly do not think that smacking should be banned or a matter for the state to regulate.....of course it is all about scale however.


Like Dimple says, he has one daughter where smacking wasn't necessary and another where it was, so for him in his situation maybe, I cannot judge another on something I have not witnessed....I can only go by my own experience which if i am being objective is biased due to my extremely abusive and violent childhood so I am triplely aware of what violence can do to a child. That is not to equate what I went through with a light smack however, I would just be very careful about how and when to use such a technique and always find an alternative....it would be a last resort for me, luckily I have never felt it necessary.

Ok so we are both agreeing with the same thing, I have just felt the need as a last resort to do it, I have not had to do it with my youngest though.
 
whats telling the teacher going to do? its not any real evidence go straight to the police

I agree in this situation it's the police who should be contacted.

That said schools are required to report things like this, and if you child had told their teacher instead of you then it should be reported.
 
so you remove yourself from the situation of hitting your partner but don't remove your children from the situation of a tantrum or danger to stop the need to smack?

guess moving your child to a quite place to tantrum or to reason with is to much hard work.

ooook!
 
I don't get it, non physically damaging smacking is traumatising but yelling at a kid to discipline it is not? Surely they are both mental punishments achieved through different methods.

Those aren't the only two options...

Abuse and Correction are two very different things.

Correction through hitting is still hitting.

The nuances of life really open up when you quit being so hyperbolic.

Deal with them rather than hitting your child...

Hell yeah. Loves it. ;)

Oh my.

Always remove them from situation, does not stop them getting in that situation over and over again

Why the hell are you putting your child in a position where they can enter an 'extremely dangerous' situation? :confused:

you won't know until you have one

This is such a pathetic cop out to criticism...
 
I, for one, did not say it did.

Yeah, you posted while I was still trying to post :D


Morba, I understand your point of view, can you tell me what harm speaking to his teacher in the morning and then referring to police/social services will do? I don't see a bad outcome from that.

unless you do?

Harm - well it's a pointless act that is a waste of time. The teacher was not there, they were not informed by the child first. Telling them now means nothing and adds no weight to support you.
If you are truly concerned enough to ring NSPCC then surely a similar call to social services is no longer and more productive.
 
how many times to people need to be told that OP has no say in where his kid stays because as a father his rights get instantly taken away by any mother that wants to take them

OP see the school (who will have a social services contact) they can probably back your thoughts of abuse up too for example if theyve noticed a change in your kids behaviour

What has that got to do with anything?

It's a simple yes or no question... will his child be staying with someone who he knows to be abusing him, whilst he is pussyfooting around the issue?

What power he has doesn't matter in the slightest... he should have phoned the police by now anyway.
 
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so you remove yourself from the situation of hitting your partner but don't remove your children from the situation of a tantrum or danger to stop the need to smack?

guess moving your child to a quite place to tantrum or to reason with is to much hard work.

ooook!

Nah, just give it a hit. That'll learn it, and help you to get your aggression out at the same time!
 
What has that got to do with anything?

It's a simple yes or no question... will your child be staying with someone who you know to be abusing him, whilst you are pussy footing around the issue?

What power he has doesn't matter in the slightest... he should have phoned the police by now anyway.

They will be at school in the morning as normal, depending on the outcome of social services/police the school will withhold access to the children and I will collect them.
 
Which will still make the abuse stop "what if he tells daddy again?"

I think you are missing the point, I want my children safe from abuse, and if nothing comes out of reporting this abuse, they will still have learnt a lesson in parenting and know that actions come with consequence.

Obviously I don't want this outcome, I want the ******* taken away from the home and a injunction against him from being around the children.
This guy made your kid drink **** and you want him to learn a lesson in parenting?

I feel sorry for your children that you are so spineless.

If you can't have you children at least let the state remove them from the abuse.
 
I don't get it, non physically damaging smacking is traumatising but yelling at a kid to discipline it is not? Surely they are both mental punishments achieved through different methods.

Whenever I was a kid I hated my mum making me go to my room and would have preferred a smack and then get on with my life.
At school we always had a choice of punishment and I never chose detention.
A quick caning, rulering or slippering and I was out of there.
 
Nah, just give it a hit. That'll learn it, and help you to get your aggression out at the same time!

Lets give you a scenario, your young child is very active and loves to run around, he keeps trying to run into a busy road, what would you do to teach your child that a car will kill them?
 
Ok so we are both agreeing with the same thing, I have just felt the need as a last resort to do it, I have not had to do it with my youngest though.

I think where we differ is you would probably feel it is a more valid method of discipline than I ...the situation would have to be extremely serious for me to even consider it, and if I can reach a child to smack them I should be able to reach a child to remove them from the danger....I have always gone with the raised voice..the louder, the more important or serious the situation. As I never shout as a rule when I do it scares the bejesus out of everyone, let alone my child. Now that he is 13 it only takes a certain look to tell him I am not amused, and he knows that if I shout then he is really in the doodoo.

My wife says she tapped his hand once when he was toddler because he tried to stick it in the fire.....she didn't tell me because she knows how I feel about violence in the home and it wasn't that important at the time. She is right, a tap on the hand or a light smack on the bottom is not important, as others have said smacking is not hitting, although I am always wary of how easily some can justify one as the other....
 
Lets give you a scenario, your young child is very active and loves to run around, he keeps trying to run into a busy road, what would you do to teach your child that a car will kill them?

Show them some car-crash gore pictures. Or not let the child play near a road without some form of obstruction to stop them from running into it.
 
Call the police, the police will not let the *#@* know you made the call.. i would then get a restraing order on him from you and your kids.. good luck.
 
Drinking his own pee never did Bear Grylls any harm, maybe this guy is teaching him other vital urban survival skills too, like eating cat food.
 
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