I would be liable to give you a smack if I saw you but I wouldn't expect you to be jailed for it - if I take offence to something you do, that would be between me and you to sort out, not something I think the state should be getting involved in.
4 Months Jail for 'Offensive' T-Shirt
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I would be liable to give you a smack if I saw you but I wouldn't expect you to be jailed for it - if I take offence to something you do, that would be between me and you to sort out, not something I think the state should be getting involved in.
And then what if you get arrested for assault? That's what the public order act is trying to stop.
You could say that about almost any crime though. You assault me, I come back with some mates and give you a good kicking and it would be settled between us.
The state is there to reinforce that the behaviour is not acceptable and define the proportionality of consequence.
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The guy's clearly a total cretin and completely worthless, but you can't jail someone for wearing a t-shirt you don't like.
His being jailed undermines the justice system imo.
His being jailed undermines the justice system imo.
You realise that part of the reason for being jailed was his active suspended sentence for drugs offences? If someone has a suspended sentence then this is taken into account for sentencing on any crimes that occur within the timeframe of the suspended sentence.
I was thinking it was one of those typical "offensive" t-shirts but after clicking the link I can understand why he was arrested. Extremely distasteful and I myself have seen friends pulling stunts writing "I have Maddie" on the backs of each others t-shirts. Disgusting.
He had a suspended sentence and I'm assuming his offensive t-shirt is something to do with the Public Order Act.
No, it's not stupid at all. Far too many feel "untouchable" on the internet, if you can't say such discriminating things in public then neither should you be able to on the internet. Period. It's cowardly.
He had a suspended sentence and I'm assuming his offensive t-shirt is something to do with the Public Order Act.
No, it's not stupid at all. Far too many feel "untouchable" on the internet, if you can't say such discriminating things in public then neither should you be able to on the internet. Period. It's cowardly.
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Then I mostly take it back, didn't see that part.
Still though, wearing an offensive t-shirt shouldn't be a criminal, punishable offence in my opinion. It's just a step to close to totalitarian police state style for me. Opinions shouldn't be punishable. Even if you're a total cretin like this berk.
So assault then ending up with you having a possible custodial sentence? (at least you were honest though
I would do the same as you BTW if roles were reversed)
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Yes it is. It's words. On a t-shirt. Same thing for f/b and twitter. So people get offended. So what? Nothing happens just because you get offended.
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So if the tables were turned, and the guy was killed by a SWAT team and someone was walking around wearing a "I'm glad Dale Creagan is dead ho ho ho" tshirt they should go to jail too?
No?
Didn't think so.
No?
Didn't think so.
Hmmm, that makes me wonder, should people be jailed if they make fun of deaths of criminals / celebrities?
My signature comes to mind, and also lots of peoples comments and jokes over the deaths of Michael Jackson and Jade Goody.
IMO, no they shouldn't.
It shouldn't only become a criminal offense, if it becomes harassment. Not a general comment.
These recent cases have been so one sides it unbelievable. How about all the offense comments made about people later proved to be innocent. Shall I mention Chris jefferies again. I don't see no one being arrested and charged for being offensive to him, despitehim knowing at the time he was innocent it would have been extremely distressful for him.
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Good point, again like i said its only freedom of speech when it suits the powers above.
The justice system is so corrupt, different sentences when friends of the police or public hysteria are involved. This case is made even worse by the fact that another victimless crime ie. drug possession contributed to his sentence or so the judge says.
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Why have only a few people noticed he was actually sentenced to 4 months because he already had a suspended sentence for another offence and not purely for wearing the T-Shirt?
If somebody in this thread - without a suspended prison sentence on them - had done it instead they would not have been jailed for 4 months.
If somebody in this thread - without a suspended prison sentence on them - had done it instead they would not have been jailed for 4 months.
Agree completely.
People bringing up his suspended sentence are missing the point. He did not do anything wrong (this time).